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wangchung12

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https://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/sports/basketball/30lakers.html?pagewanted=2&ref=sports

I was just reading this "lovely" piece of crap about the bromance between Fisher and Bean Bryant and noticed this quote:
“We communicated all the time when he was gone,” Bryant said. “Always on the phone, especially when the thing went down with his daughter, actually right before he went to the game in Utah.”

In 2007, Fisher’s daughter Tatum, then 11 months old, was found to have a rare form of eye cancer. After emergency surgery in New York, Fisher rejoined the Jazz, to whom he had been traded, for a playoff game already in progress against the Warriors.

Fisher hit the game-winning shot in overtime and Bryant, watching in Los Angeles, thought, “We need him back.”

The Lakers missed Fisher’s high-arching southpaw jumper. Bryant clamored for a like-minded colleague, his best friend. He lobbied hard for Fisher when Utah released him from his contract so he could seek treatment for his daughter in a bigger city.

Fisher’s return to the Lakers in 2007 just happened to coincide with the rehabilitation of Bryant’s reputation.
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This just confirms for me that Fisher and Bean planned on Fisher leaving for LA especially the "We need him back" quote. Jazz Fans are totally justified in booing that Liar!!! Seriously the media needs to get off of Fishers junk and see him for what he is a liar and a piss poor father who used his daughter's illness to get out of a situation he didn't like!!!
 
wangchung12 said:
Fisher hit the game-winning shot in overtime
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:roll:

Unbelievable. We outscored the Warriors 14-4 in the OT and Fisher's shot came with a little over a minute to play remaining. The Jazz then out-scored the Warriors by four in the final minute to win by 10. It's difficult to say that any shot was the "game winner" from that game. What makes Fisher's shot significantly more important than Deron's three that came a couple minutes earlier? That shot also put us up by 3 in OT. Last I checked the points count the same. Fisher has an unbelievable publicist.
 
Why are we still talking about that average back-up PG who left the team several years ago?
 
At the time we thought it was a good move. It allowed Ronnie Brewer to get minutes and the promising Morris Almond to get some PT. Funny how some things don't work out.
 
Fisher leaving the Jazz indirectly hurt us, if that makes sense. His departure didn't make us a worse team, but he made the Lakers a better team...if Farmar were their starting PG, would they be doing as well? Doubtful.Of course, if Gasol weren't there it's a moot point but thats another story.

As for the article, I remember Fisher would ask Kobe for advice on how to handle flying in late for games, since Kobe had to do that during his rape trial.For Anyone who believes Fisher and Kobe didn't discuss bringing him back to L.A. in their many conversations, I've got some Ocean Front Property in Arizona i'd love to sell you. And the media does keep fanning the flames, and his new book "Character Driven" (what a dooshbag title considering his lack thereof), just exacerbates this whole thing.
 
moevillini said:
ok, this does it for me:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090831122630AAL3Su4

I think EVERYTHING in the NBA since should have an ASTERISK.

Do it NOW, David Stern.

Honestly.
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Forget the push-off. Eisley's 3 was 20 feet in the air when the 24 second buzzer sounded, and Dickhead Bavetta waived it off, Ron Harper's 2 pt basket later in the game was clearly NOT out of his hands when the 24 second buzzer went off. Hot Rod talked about that in his book ...sure, they didnt happen late in the game but in a game decided by 1 point, you cannot discount those 5 points that went the Bulls way.
 
calijazz said:
Because that average backup PG beats the Jazz in the playoffs every season.
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Derek Fisher's impact on the games Utah plays against LA is minimal, at best. Some of you need to come to grips with the fact that the Lakers are BETTER than Utah. This is why the board is filled with ludicrous trade ideas and debates over which big man the Jazz should draft. Because the Jazz need to get BETTER to compete with LA.

There are a dozen reasons why Utah has lost to LA in 3-straight playoff series and Derek Fisher doesn't even come close to being one of them. I'm not defending the man, because the evidence exists that he manipulated the Jazz organization, but it just DOESN'T MATTER. AT ALL. You people need to let it go. Seriously, it's sad.

Seriously, complaining that Utah lost because LA has Derek Fisher is akin to if LA fans lost to Golden State and complained it was because GS had Ronny Turiaf.
 
I don't think anyone on this board believes the Jazz are better, or even close to as good as L.A...the discussion never dies because the media keeps fanning the flames. But in the grand scheme of things, you're right, it's not the difference in us losing to them, there's a ton of other factors that supersede that.
 
LA Fans would have a point about Turiaf if he sucked against 28 teams and went bonkers against the Lakers.

Dude shot 38% this season, 34.8% from three.

Against Utah: 56.5% and 50% from three.

His shooting numbers fell during the playoffs but were still way above his season averages.
 
Jazzfannut83 said:
Fisher leaving the Jazz indirectly hurt us, if that makes sense. His departure didn't make us a worse team, but he made the Lakers a better team...if Farmar were their starting PG, would they be doing as well? Doubtful.Of course, if Gasol weren't there it's a moot point but thats another story.

As for the article, I remember Fisher would ask Kobe for advice on how to handle flying in late for games, since Kobe had to do that during his rape trial.For Anyone who believes Fisher and Kobe didn't discuss bringing him back to L.A. in their many conversations, I've got some Ocean Front Property in Arizona i'd love to sell you. And the media does keep fanning the flames, and his new book "Character Driven" (what a dooshbag title considering his lack thereof), just exacerbates this whole thing.
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Where in Arizona?
 
Jazzfannut83 said:
Kicky, any chance you could go back to that twirling woman as your avatar? I miss that thing.
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Just look up Uncle Ruckus on youtube then ask yourself if you really want it changed back. (not work safe)
 
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Honz, it's the title of a George Strait Song, lyrics "I don't love you, and if you'll buy that...I got some, Ocean Front Property in Arizona.... and if you'll buy that I'll throw the Golden Gate in free"
 
JJ Rage said:
Derek Fisher's impact on the games Utah plays against LA is minimal, at best.
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Perhaps in the last two series.

However, in the first series, which went to 6 games, Fisher had a huge impact. Utah would draw close to the Lakers on the road, and Fisher would come up with an offensive foul, or a steal. Stifling our offense, leading to an easy Laker two on the other end.

He knows our plays like the back of his hand. He knew Deron Williams at the time and could stop him at will. To say he had no effect is that series is ludicrous.
 
Jazzfannut83 said:
Kicky, any chance you could go back to that twirling woman as your avatar? I miss that thing.
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I couldn't figure out how to shrink down the animated gif to the necessary 80X80. I gave up and went with Uncle Ruckus. If you can tell me how, I'd gladly change it back.
 
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