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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Jazz are in an awful lot of rumors, probably more than any other team in the league. Beasley, Vanderbilt, Olynyk, Clarkson, even Sexton being mentioned.
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I’m sure whatever team Ainge is GM for allows a higher deal of credibility to spread on any kind of trade rumor.
 
Watching Collins right now… his defense is legit solid… I don’t see him improving a ton on offense… I think he’s just limited there. He does look kinda checked out.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Jazz were rumored to be interested in John Collins last summer. First, it was a Rudy Gobert rumor, then it was a Bojan rumor. The Jazz must have some level of interest in Collins.
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Yeah, but with the way Collins value seems to have been overstated, DA is going to end up trading Olynyk and THT for Collins and a ‘23 pick swap on the Brooklyn/Philly pick. . .


. . . #Believe.
 
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Coach Ellis said:
Yeah, but with the way Collins value seems to have been overstated, DA is going to end up trading Olynyk and THT for Collins and a ‘23 pick swap on the Brooklyn/Philly pick. . .


. . . #Believe.
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I do not see this front office ever value Collins enough to give up anyone good.
 
Coach Ellis said:
Yeah, but with the way Collins value seems to have been overstated, DA is going to end up trading Olynyk and THT for Collins and a ‘23 pick swap on the Brooklyn/Philly pick. . .


. . . #Believe.
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A healthy Olynyk would actually be a great asset on the Hawks. He passes the damn ball.
 
Some of these eastern teams are poorly managed and coached ,and thats why Ainge keeps trading with them. A player that looks ok to bad on these teams end up being way better when traded to the Jazz. smart moves.
 
Jingled said:
Interesting.


View: https://twitter.com/Dunzod/status/1614080393820667905
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I mean really from day one they should have been trying to win.......... with the young guys. Ochai, NAW, Sexton, Kessler (especially him), THT, Vando, Lauri, Beasley, etc should have been getting the lions share of minutes and Conley and KO should have been getting 20 minutes or less (starting or coming off the bench, whatever) and Gay should have never played a single minute. If the team wins a ton like that then so be it. Thats great!. If they lose a few games more than they would have then that is also great. Should be looking to trade KO/Conley/Gay for sure since the start of season and continuing up until today (my guess is ainge has been working to move those 3 from day one and still is).
Clarkson is the one old dude that you probably should start and play big minutes since he has a lot left in the tank and the jazz seem to love him and want to re-sign him.

I dont blame Hardy too much though. Its gotta be really hard for a rookie head coach to go up to guys like Conley and KO and tell them that we are putting you out to pasture and just gonna give you token minutes. Plus if you want to trade them then you kind of need to showcase them a bit.

For me the biggest mistakes Hardy has made in minute distribution and rotations is that Ochai wasn't playing at all for the first 39 games and that kessler should have been getting more minutes for such a long time now and that Gay really should have never been getting minutes. That might have been hard for Hardy too though so i kind of give him a break. Should have bought out gay or cut him or whatever. Ochai and kessler are my two biggest complaints.

Overall i think Hardy has done a really good job and im very very happy that we hired him as our coach. I love his personality and demeanor too and his sarcasm and jokes in the post game interviews are pretty good.
 
fishonjazz said:
I mean really from day one they should have been trying to win.......... with the young guys. Ochai, NAW, Sexton, Kessler (especially him), THT, Vando, Lauri, Beasley, etc should have been getting the lions share of minutes and Conley and KO should have been getting 20 minutes or less (starting or coming off the bench, whatever) and Gay should have never played a single minute. If the team wins a ton like that then so be it. Thats great!. If they lose a few games more than they would have then that is also great. Should be looking to trade KO/Conley/Gay for sure since the start of season and continuing up until today (my guess is ainge has been working to move those 3 from day one and still is).
Clarkson is the one old dude that you probably should start and play big minutes since he has a lot left in the tank and the jazz seem to love him and want to re-sign him.

I dont blame Hardy too much though. Its gotta be really hard for a rookie head coach to go up to guys like Conley and KO and tell them that we are putting you out to pasture and just gonna give you token minutes. Plus if you want to trade them then you kind of need to showcase them a bit.

For me the biggest mistakes Hardy has made in minute distribution and rotations is that Ochai wasn't playing at all for the first 39 games and that kessler should have been getting more minutes for such a long time now and that Gay really should have never been getting minutes. That might have been hard for Hardy too though so i kind of give him a break. Should have bought out gay or cut him or whatever. Ochai and kessler are my two biggest complaints.

Overall i think Hardy has done a really good job and im very very happy that we hired him as our coach. I love his personality and demeanor too and his sarcasm and jokes in the post game interviews are pretty good.
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I understand why you think this but snubbing vets is hard to justify to casual fans (majority), to Silver (who said he will be watching "tanking moves" extra carefully) and most of all to the players.. unless the young guys are better players.

Second thing is coaches dont tank. They try to put the best possible team out there.. and our early season suggested he did just that. Even though we might now increase youth minutes Hardy will still coach them to win every night. And thats the mentality and mindset we want from him.

Also.. this is speculation... but if Conley doesnt play with Markkanen as much as he does.. is he still gonna grow the way he did?

I'm very happy with this season.

We traded away two great players and might have gotten equal potential back just in Lauri and Kessler.. plus 9 extra picks (I count Beasley and Vando as picks at this point), 3 swaps, Ochai and Sexton.
 
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