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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

framer said:
QO is a one year guarantee. Don't insult him and give him a multiyear contract and I think he bites. 3/12 is pretty damn insulting.
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3/12 is not insulting at all. If he takes the QO he's at risk of being buried on a bench behind a bunch of rookie contract players (already a struggle for him to get minutes and that's with roster deadweights like Udoka/Bolmaro existing). He's going to want to sign a multi-year deal. Make it a 3/12 with a player option for the 3rd year so he can rake in the bigger TV deal money.
 
How highly would you all rate Cam Johnson in the off-season? I think 3&D stretch-4 style could pair really well aside Lauri/Kessler in the frontcourt and he has proven to be a winning player. He will already be 27 when he comes off his rookie deal this season as a RFA.

Suns offered him $72/4 which he turned down. New ownership supposedly wants to win, but the team is definitely at a unique point as CP3 ages and they've had friction with Ayton/Crowder (the jazz are proof that having high expectations and then flaming out in the playoffs can be disastrous). They have Booker, Ayton, Bridges on massive contacts already. IDK, if we maintain some contacts, I would definitely be interested in a potential sign and trade where we pay him $22-24 per over four with the raising cap or sign him outright if it clear enough cap.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
How highly would you all rate Cam Johnson in the off-season? I think 3&D stretch-4 style could pair really well aside Lauri/Kessler in the frontcourt and he has proven to be a winning player. He will already be 27 when he comes off his rookie deal this season as a RFA.

Suns offered him $72/4 which he turned down. New ownership supposedly wants to win, but the team is definitely at a unique point as CP3 ages and they've had friction with Ayton/Crowder (the jazz are proof that having high expectations and then flaming out in the playoffs can be disastrous). They have Booker, Ayton, Bridges on massive contacts already. IDK, if we maintain some contacts, I would definitely be interested in a potential sign and trade where we pay him $22-24 per over four with the raising cap or sign him outright if it clear enough cap.
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I'd definitely give him more than 72/4.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We tend to think about what our players can do for the team. We want to maximize the team... but for Collin if he proves he is a starter quality guy and then you move him to the bench how happy is he going to be long term. We may not care but he will... starting or coming off the bench changes how a player is viewed and valued. Its hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Not sure what he would do about it... we have a long term deal and he will likely still perform but his ego would likely need some massaging. Like after the year JC has had do we think he'd accept a bench role for us next year? He might take that somewhere else but there is an real ego hit... does he turn into a tyrant? Probably not... could we have a John Collins type general unhappiness? That's the downside risk... it might be present already but making him a starter now might speed up that confrontation.
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If he plays well enough to make a case as a starting PG then you move him for assets if you get someone better. The assets you get for a starting level PG is much better than you get for a scoring specialist off the bench. It isn't rocket science.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
How highly would you all rate Cam Johnson in the off-season? I think 3&D stretch-4 style could pair really well aside Lauri/Kessler in the frontcourt and he has proven to be a winning player. He will already be 27 when he comes off his rookie deal this season as a RFA.

Suns offered him $72/4 which he turned down. New ownership supposedly wants to win, but the team is definitely at a unique point as CP3 ages and they've had friction with Ayton/Crowder (the jazz are proof that having high expectations and then flaming out in the playoffs can be disastrous). They have Booker, Ayton, Bridges on massive contacts already. IDK, if we maintain some contacts, I would definitely be interested in a potential sign and trade where we pay him $22-24 per over four with the raising cap or sign him outright if it clear enough cap.
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I think he gets Deandre Hunter level money... like 4/90M.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We tend to think about what our players can do for the team. We want to maximize the team... but for Collin if he proves he is a starter quality guy and then you move him to the bench how happy is he going to be long term. We may not care but he will... starting or coming off the bench changes how a player is viewed and valued. Its hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Not sure what he would do about it... we have a long term deal and he will likely still perform but his ego would likely need some massaging. Like after the year JC has had do we think he'd accept a bench role for us next year? He might take that somewhere else but there is an real ego hit... does he turn into a tyrant? Probably not... could we have a John Collins type general unhappiness? That's the downside risk... it might be present already but making him a starter now might speed up that confrontation.
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I just don't believe you make decisions out of fear that a player might improve himself and view himself as that improved player. On a scale of 1-10, the fear of negative impacts coming from Collin Sexton starting is about a 1.2. If you are in so much fear of Sexton not starting, you can just not start him.
 
framer said:
If he plays well enough to make a case as a starting PG then you move him for assets if you get someone better. The assets you get for a starting level PG is much better than you get for a scoring specialist off the bench. It isn't rocket science.
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Exactly, since when are we afraid to trade players because his younger replacement might prove to be better? One of the reasons to trade Conley is to see if Sexton is actually starter quality. It's good for the franchise if Sexton improves his stock, not something to be afraid of lol.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Because if the goal is for him to be this super 6th man type, you want him growing into that role and accepting it. If you give him the starter reigns only to take them away, that could be problematic.
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Fair point.
 
framer said:
If he plays well enough to make a case as a starting PG then you move him for assets if you get someone better. The assets you get for a starting level PG is much better than you get for a scoring specialist off the bench. It isn't rocket science.
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There are ways around it for sure... but even if he shows promise it doesn't mean there will be a good value trade or a trade partner. He may be a good soldier though... I'm simply saying there are things to consider here.
 
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