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Handlogten's Heros said:
I listened to a pod with Sarah Todd on it last night. She's not my fav but she laid out the situation perfectly... he's playing to make Rudy Gay happy and to keep the peace. His comments from last year about "not doing his job" and periodic temper tantrums all support this case. The fact that Hardy has even started throwing him some vintage Rudy Gay post ups is hilarious. Hardy is managing this situation until the find an out.
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Eh, his off/on numbers are actually decent in comparison with the eye test. I don't think the Jazz are bending the organization to make Rudy happy. Once somebody consistently outplays his impact he will get less time. That person is going to be Olynyk.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think the price could be really low on him though. He likely gets an offer in the MLE range I'm guessing... so will have a wide market. Would be nice to try it before we buy it.

My thought is a Vando for McDaniels swap... they get a budget player on a two year deal for their expiring
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I would rather have Vando. You don't trade an asset for an expiring contrat.
 
framer said:
Eh, his off/on numbers are actually decent in comparison with the eye test. I don't think the Jazz are bending the organization to make Rudy happy. Once somebody consistently outplays his impact he will get less time. That person is going to be Olynyk.
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He does some okay things... I'd just encourage you to listen to the Callin Shots podcast with Sarah and Seth Partnow. We aren't bending the whole organization... but yeah we are giving him a role that should be invested elsewhere to keep the peace.

KO may take his minutes. I also think if Gay isn't moved that he will be bought out after the deadline.
 
sip said:
I would rather have Vando. You don't trade an asset for an expiring contrat.
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I would... you'd get a chance to see what he has... he fits a position of need. You also get his bird rights and there is a much better chance of you signing him if he is already in house versus trying to sell him in FA.

I think this year's FA crop has some interesting MLE types. I wouldn't mind acquiring Jalen and giving him an MLE type deal and then also pursuing Naz Reid with something around the MLE. There are some others but getting Jalen now has value and Vando is likely only getting you second rounders in a trade.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I would... you'd get a chance to see what he has... he fits a position of need. You also get his bird rights and there is a much better chance of you signing him if he is already in house versus trying to sell him in FA.

I think this year's FA crop has some interesting MLE types. I wouldn't mind acquiring Jalen and giving him an MLE type deal and then also pursuing Naz Reid with something around the MLE. There are some others but getting Jalen now has value and Vando is likely only getting you second rounders in a trade.
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No thanks
 
sip said:
No thanks
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Jalen is actually extension eligible now and could be extended for a maximum of 4/58M... extension could occur at any time.
 
framer said:
Kessler is going to be taking those minutes. He's moving into 30 minutes a game up from 12-15.
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We will see. I wont be shocked to see kessler go back to 23 minutes per night and KO at 28 and Gay right there at 13-15 like always.
I mean i think most of us knew Kessler should be getting closer to 30 minutes per night and Gay zero before KO got hurt. Yet that wasn't happening. At all. I hope you are right though.
 
fishonjazz said:
By the way Cy, I want to make it clear that I think you have a very good basketball mind and I appreciate your posts. I hope you dont take my disagreements with you or what may seem like me attacking you too personally/hard.
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I appreciated Cy's BASKETBALL comments. But they made up about 1/3rd of his posts. More often then not his posts were unapologetically aggressive, crass, cynical, snarky, political, directed at individuals, or below the belt.

The mute button means I didn't hear whatever comment he likely made back or will shortly send over. It's a great add to JazzFanz. I love keeping the peace on this forum but some posters make that impossible. That's when we all enjoy Simon & Garkfunkel playing 'The Sound of Silence'. Beautiful.
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
He does some okay things... I'd just encourage you to listen to the Callin Shots podcast with Sarah and Seth Partnow. We aren't bending the whole organization... but yeah we are giving him a role that should be invested elsewhere to keep the peace.

KO may take his minutes. I also think if Gay isn't moved that he will be bought out after the deadline.
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I'm assuming Will/Gay have a decent relationship from their time together in San Antonio.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I listened to a pod with Sarah Todd on it last night. She's not my fav but she laid out the situation perfectly... he's playing to make Rudy Gay happy and to keep the peace. His comments from last year about "not doing his job" and periodic temper tantrums all support this case. The fact that Hardy has even started throwing him some vintage Rudy Gay post ups is hilarious. Hardy is managing this situation until the find an out.
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While I think there's some truth to this... it's almost unheard of to play totally unproductive veterans just to "keep the peace".

You buy these guys out or tell them to go home to keep the peace.
 
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