This is a deep draft. There are so many guys that project as really solid role players. There aren't a lot of guys that project as bonafide stars but I think there are quite a few guys with serious upside if a few things click.
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Eddie Zero
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Thats exactly what most people say about every "normal" draft class, with the exception of obviously bad one's.
This draft is better than I expected it would be, barring a lot of prospects returning to school, but that's because I saw it as being overrated by the average NBA fan.
Turns out it is about the same as most draft classes.
With the exception of 1 generational talent, if he can stay healthy, and a ton of highly athletic decent sized playmaking wings there is nothing deep about this class over any of recent memory.
The thing that hurts this draft a lot, or the perception of it, is that a lot of the (perceived) 2nd top tier guys have been disappointing. Whitmore/NSJ/Whitehead/Lively/Proctor/Mitchell (off the top of my head) where all pre-season projected lottery picks who have been underwhelming.
I think the nerds like us get excited about the mid-tier talent, but when you hear the talks about strong/weak it's usually referring to top end talent.
I think the nerds like us get excited about the mid-tier talent, but when you hear the talks about strong/weak it's usually referring to top end talent.
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Excited for the Bama/Arkansas game. Would be cool for NSJ to really show out vs Miller.
Yeah, the way I'm seeing this class play out is that a lot of guys who were in the 3-8 range have fallen stock, so they feel like 10-14 level prospects....but there are a lot of guys who weren't on draft boards who also feel like 10-14 level prospects now (Brice, Howard etc). I feel like there are only 3-4 guys who feel worthy of a top 8 pick, but there are like 15 guys after that who feel like they should be in the 8-12 range. It will be an eye of the beholder draft, and there are going to be a lot of guys that go a lot lower/higher than peoples expectations.
I'd be happy if the Jazz came away with 2 of the French wings in this draft. They are the best 3&D prospects in the draft.
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I could see a move up to get jarace Walker
Coach Ellis
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I think this is exactly how drafts are perceived as being either strong or weak.
I still remember how 2011 and 2013 were both considered “weak drafts” and only ended up having one star player in the top 4 of either draft. . . while multiple All-Stars were drafted outside the top 10 - Klay Thompson #11, Kawhi Leonard #15, Giannis Antetokoumnpo #15, Nikola Vucevic #16, Rudy Gobert #27, Jimmy Butler #30 and Isaiah Thomas #60.
Besides that, several quality rotation guys who were outside the top 8 in both those drafts as well - Kemba Walker #9, CJ McCollum #10, Steven Adams #12, Kelly Olynyk #13, Marcus Morris #14, Tobias Harris #19 and Bojan Bogdanovic #31.
This feels to me like 23 will be a draft that will be compared to those two down the road.
NSJ is talented.
Not having an amazing game or anything, but he makes Arkansas way better with how dynamic he is.
Not having an amazing game or anything, but he makes Arkansas way better with how dynamic he is.
Bawse Dawg
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Late just watched the Bama game for a couple minutes and thought #15 was Brandon Miller. Was gonna comment on how great his proportions look for basketball, lol.
Never did find the actual Miller…
Never did find the actual Miller…
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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If all this had come out just days before the draft… maybe, but he’s going to continue to impress in the months ahead and he will go between 3-5 or 6 at the lowest.
Reminds me a of more than a few stars. Sometimes all you need is elite shooting and length with elite skills.
Bawse Dawg
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Just watched Brandon Miller shake Anthony Black on an iso for a pretty left hand layup.
You just goofy if you are sticking with the early season critiques of Miller's attacking/finishing potential.
You just goofy if you are sticking with the early season critiques of Miller's attacking/finishing potential.
Bawse Dawg
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Three lottery picks on the floor.
Eddie Zero
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Noone is q Miller anymore. Accept for defense. But the accessory to Murder is not out the window if any other key witness steps forward and implicates him, hence removing the prosecutions need for his testimony against the shooter to save himself. His baggage cart will absolutely hurt him at the time of the draft and should have if it is ignored. If someone from the victims fam doesn't take a shot at him before that anyway.
You cannot tell me he had no idea what "could happen" when he drove up to the location, and there wasn't any gun play until he did
You cannot tell me he had no idea what "could happen" when he drove up to the location, and there wasn't any gun play until he did
Because America is so hard on gun providers....
Miller has no chance of being prosecuted or getting in trouble. His car is the main form of evidence as he had his dashcam on. If there was anything actionable against him, it already would have presented itself.
It's kind of hard for me to critique Black or Smith Jr too hard because Arkansas has no spacing. They've taken 5 threes all game.
Eddie Zero
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does the dash cam show him and when the shooter shows up armed on it? Think about it. if no crime took place until Miller was there and the dash cam shows it happen soon after he got there, he brought the gun
Yes, Miller had a gun in his backseat that was taken by his teammate which was then given to another person who then shot people. No one is questioning this. This is not a crime though unless Miller's intent was "Hey I'm driving you this gun so you can specifically use it to shoot someone". Guns are legal in America. I hate it, guns suck, but they are legal. It's not illegal to feel like you need a gun for self-defense and they are in ****ing Alabama, you can probably open carry a rocket launcher. It's ****ing ugly. When you have two heated parties and each side has a gun, things go south and that's what happened.