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THT Turning The Corner?


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Did THT turn a corner, No. This is who he is, he's scored 40 before and 30+ in preseason games and multiple in season games in the high 20s. These are the flashes he shows that keeps a team holding onto his potential. Glad he had a good game and we got the win. Charlotte's defense was soo bad I couldn't really evaluate his game.

The game last night was ten times better than any game he played with the lakers.
no this is THT from the day he was drafted- a one dimensional one on none hero ball scorer with the length to catch defenders sleeping and the shot ability to make them pay for sleeping.
What is nice to see is the court vision from him. I dont think Hardy did **** regarding THT
You talk as if all he did was shoot and play hero ball. He was efficient, rebounded and dished out 10 assists on a night our best player shot 3-20 something. How many more assists could he have had?
 
I know that his size is part of what makes him work, but I’d sure like to see how he’d look at about 10 pounds lighter and leaner. I’m worried that he’s just currently not in the best shape he’s capable of. Hopefully, the Jazz work with him to fine tune his body as well as his skill. Kessler and Agbaji fall in that same category for me as well.
 
Based on what I’ve seen so far:

Kessler (21)
THT (22)
Agbaji (23)
Sexton (24)
Markkanen (26)

That’s a pretty decent group of young players to start a rebuild around, plus a boatload of draft assets to either use or trade to continue to upgrade the roster.
 
I cannot onboard THT hype train yet since the guy was praised as the greatest tank commander just a week ago. His season high (last game) and low (SA game) were less than two weeks apart. No one turns the corner that fast, not even THT with his spin moves. So as a primary ball handler its a no for me at this point.

However I see his upside as a really solid 2-way second unit commander who can contribute with 20-25 MPG in a good team and also fill in for starters at PG/SG with solid play. Needs to develop consistency and reduce erratic decisions and I think when he gets older and matures that could happen pretty naturally.

That being said, I loved the passes he made to traffic last game. If that is something he can do effectively and in such volumes night after night then I might be converted to believe in his starter upside.
 
I cannot onboard THT hype train yet since the guy was praised as the greatest tank commander just a week ago. His season high (last game) and low (SA game) were less than two weeks apart. No one turns the corner that fast, not even THT with his spin moves. So as a primary ball handler its a no for me at this point.

However I see his upside as a really solid 2-way second unit commander who can contribute with 20-25 MPG in a good team and also fill in for starters at PG/SG with solid play. Needs to develop consistency and reduce erratic decisions and I think when he gets older and matures that could happen pretty naturally.

That being said, I loved the passes he made to traffic last game. If that is something he can do effectively and in such volumes night after night then I might be converted to believe in his starter upside.
As I said after the game, this performance was a true outlier. An offense where the main weapon is THT going 1-on-3 with wild spin layups and stepback 3's early in the clock is not realistic or desirable. In fact, as a part of the regular menu it would be horrible. 99 times of 100 that's a gift to the opposition, and then once in a blue moon he catches fire while nobody else has anything going on. That happened in the Charlotte game.

Most NBA players are capable of going on heaters like the one THT had. It's just that it's rare for role players to get the amount of touches and shots they need to get almost 40 points. In the Hornets game, THT made some really nice passes but he also went 1-on-5 a ton from the moment he crossed midcourt. That's obviously something we don't want to happen with any frequency.

The job of a modern starting PG is to run the team's offense while being a shooting/scoring threat as well. THT played more like a iso scorer who just happened to have the ball to start each trip down the court. His playmaking is shaky, and that's putting it mildly.

I see him as a backup combo guard. Trouble is, we have quite a few of those guys already.
 
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Nope. He has just had a good stretch. He's a solid role piece but nothing more. Hopefully he proves me wrong.
 
An offense where the main weapon is THT going 1-on-3 with wild spin layups and stepback 3's early in the clock is not realistic or desirable.
He took 5 threes, where one was after the game was practically over (27 seconds left or so) and one was more or less a shot-clock buzzer. While a few of the spin move layups were pretty wild, I thought for the most part they were under control. He simply played a very, very good game.
 
I cannot onboard THT hype train yet since the guy was praised as the greatest tank commander just a week ago. His season high (last game) and low (SA game) were less than two weeks apart. No one turns the corner that fast, not even THT with his spin moves. So as a primary ball handler its a no for me at this point.

However I see his upside as a really solid 2-way second unit commander who can contribute with 20-25 MPG in a good team and also fill in for starters at PG/SG with solid play. Needs to develop consistency and reduce erratic decisions and I think when he gets older and matures that could happen pretty naturally.

That being said, I loved the passes he made to traffic last game. If that is something he can do effectively and in such volumes night after night then I might be converted to believe in his starter upside.
He's been turning the corner since January. Turning a corner doesn't mean you cease having bad games.
 
Here is my worry with THT. I think he is improving. I think he's fun to watch. I think my issue with him long term on a team that wins at a high level is that he will likely have flashes of amazingness and flashes of cringiness. When he is in a smaller minute role I am not sure he will get the chance to work through the valleys. I am glad he is getting a lot of time to hopefully get the decision-making stuff figured out and work on consistency. Improved decision making and better shooting will really help those thing smooth out.
 
Point THT Numbers this season. I think that if this guy was a 22 year old rookie we'd be super excited about him. Instead he's a 22 year old 4th year player with one more year left, but I'm still pleased with his play at PG. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective. You probably don't want to hitch your offense to the THT experience but we are winning these minutes hard.

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Point THT Numbers this season. I think that if this guy was a 22 year old rookie we'd be super excited about him. Instead he's a 22 year old 4th year player with one more year left, but I'm still pleased with his play at PG. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective. You probably don't want to hitch your offense to the THT experience but we are winning these minutes hard.

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If he were a 22yr old rookie we definitely would be viewing him as a big time building block versus some people that still view him as a scrub.
 
If he were a 22yr old rookie we definitely would be viewing him as a big time building block versus some people that still view him as a scrub.
It’s important to note that a 22 year old rookie is much less experienced than a 22 year old 4th year player, though.

It’s great he’s young but it’s not that simple. This ain’t hating.
 
It’s important to note that a 22 year old rookie is much less experienced than a 22 year old 4th year player, though.

It’s great he’s young but it’s not that simple. This ain’t hating.
This... the age thing stops being this huge indicator at some point... and I'd say between a year at Iowa State and 4 years in the league he is much closer to his ceiling than a 22 year old that is finishing his first year of NBA basketball.
 
This would be a lot easier if we didn't already have Sexton. they are two entirely different players who would fill the same spot. (sixth man energy guys). and i really want to keep Dunn. I agree with what someone said earlier, maybe we sigh as we let Clarson go. sorry dud, wrong side of thirty.
 
This... the age thing stops being this huge indicator at some point... and I'd say between a year at Iowa State and 4 years in the league he is much closer to his ceiling than a 22 year old that is finishing his first year of NBA basketball.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I do think it's somewhat of a case by case basis. THT is still very raw and unpolished. I think he has a lot of room to grow and is getting better. Ochai is doing some new things, but I'd still say THT has a much greater ceiling and room for growth (I'm not saying he'll get there). Ochai has less experience and has had less chances, but he was a never the type of prospect with a wide variance,
 
Here is my worry with THT. I think he is improving. I think he's fun to watch. I think my issue with him long term on a team that wins at a high level is that he will likely have flashes of amazingness and flashes of cringiness. When he is in a smaller minute role I am not sure he will get the chance to work through the valleys. I am glad he is getting a lot of time to hopefully get the decision-making stuff figured out and work on consistency. Improved decision making and better shooting will really help those thing smooth out.

While I understand this line of thinking....the other side of this coin is often used in favor of players. He might get in a game for 3 minutes, completely stink it up, and never get a chance to make up for it. But he may also get in the game for 3 minutes, play well, and he won't have the cringeworthy moment because he's already subbed out. When we talked about Dunn/Shaw Harrison, it was a common talking point that we liked those guys because they add a change of pace and their flaws were not that big of a deal.

I think it's good to have some guys who provide consistent value that you can rely on. But when it comes to guys who are highly variable, I'm not sure it helps or hurts the player in question. I know coaches strongly prefer the more consistent option but having a guy who is a little bit of an X factor isn't the worst thing ever. A good balance is nice,
 
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