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Are we all collectively a little too down on Jett Howard?
Jett Howard?

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Basically impossible for me to believe 20 teams are going to pass on his potential upside.

Is he an upside pick? I know he’s especially young, but I can’t think of a single player that was this bad and became a higher end player. Most never make it, and when they do stick around it’s because they find a way to fit into a role.
 
Is he an upside pick?
Are you kidding? a 6' 9" 18 year old that's athletic, smooth as butter at advanced moves, and can shoot? Yeah, there's upside.

If he's just a dummy then that will be all she wrote, but to suggest he doesn't have upside is wild to me.

I'm sure there are dozens of players that had worse freshman seasons and became a "higher" end player. Literally thousands have had worse freshman seasons and survived in the league.
 
I think Ferg hyping up GG and being a massive hater on Miller soured me on GG early on. I am starting to warm up to GG more now.
 
Are you kidding? a 6' 9" 18 year old that's athletic, smooth as butter at advanced moves, and can shoot? Yeah, there's upside.

If he's just a dummy then that will be all she wrote, but to suggest he doesn't have upside is wild to me.

I'm sure there are dozens of players that had worse freshman seasons and became a "higher" end player. Literally thousands have had worse freshman seasons and survived in the league.


I meant as a one and done player, or really any college player entering the draft. There's not many players who stunk it up like GG in their last season before entering and stuck around the league. There always seems to be 1 or 2 of these guys who are blue chip recruits and fall short of expectations in college, fall in the draft, and then people convince themselves they still have star potential. Off the top of my head, Jalen McDaniels, Nasir Little, and Vanderbilt come to mind...but those guys made it by grinding a role. GG had a much better reputation as a defender and hustle guy coming into college, so maybe that comes around. But the pouting does not inspire confidence. I'm probably missing someone, but that seems to be the path to sticking around for these college disappointment guys.

I think GG's athleticism and physical tools are nothing to write home about. You compare him to the other 6-8-6'10 guys and I don't think his athleticism stands out, and it's not like he has a crazy wingspan or anything. 3 point shooting is not bad considering he shoots a lot of bad shots, but also nothing amazing. He's pretty smooth as ball handler and I will say it is somewhat unqiue, but how effective is that really in the NBA? It was not very effective in college. Even if the shot making stuff does work, there's more to being a high end player than scoring and he does not ton else going for him. He was terrible as a playmaker, bad defender, meh rebounder, and most things tbh. Even if the scoring does come around, a mountain to climb to become a high level overall player. It's like he has two mountains to climb. 1) Do the main thing he did in college (scoring) much better in the NBA and 2) improve immensly on the stuff he was terrible at in college that aren't scoring. He has to do both to be a high end player. Someone like Christian Wood is a really great offensive player, but he won't play much more than 25 MPG on a contending team.
 
I think Cason Wallace will be a top 10 player from this class in 5 years or so.

There’s not really anything he doesn’t do well imo, and Kentucky guards almost always do better in the league than they do at Kentucky.
Yup.

I don’t think he’s ever an all-star but I think he’s all-NBA defender (1st or 2nd team) most of his career while just being a head down, do the dirty work guard that every team in the NBA would love to have.
 
Is he an upside pick? I know he’s especially young, but I can’t think of a single player that was this bad and became a higher end player. Most never make it, and when they do stick around it’s because they find a way to fit into a role.

Another young and inefficient player to compare him to would be Jonathan Kuminga, who struggled as an 18 y.o. with GLI. GG has shown more shooting and self-creation flashes than Kuminga did. I think most people view GG as a high-upside prospect with some All Star potential.

Another case might be Jaden McDaniels at Washington, but McDaniels was a year older as a freshman than GG. McDaniels also had a questionable physical profile at 185 lbs.

Anthony Edwards was also an inefficient 18 y.o. at Georgia, who clearly has panned out.
 
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