Flip didn't even hit low 30's....also, there are a lot more guys who couldn't shoot in college that also couldn't shoot in the NBA. In fact, there are way more guys who could shoot in college that couldn't shoot in the NBA than the other way around. You can use exceptions to justify anything. Doesn't change the fact that they are exceptions.
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Flip didn't even hit low 30's....also, there are a lot more guys who couldn't shoot in college that also couldn't shoot in the NBA. In fact, there are way more guys who could shoot in college that couldn't shoot in the NBA than the other way around. You can use exceptions to justify anything. Doesn't change the fact that they are exceptions.
It’s not an exception it’s a real thing that happens with a lot of players.
People get in car crashes. It's a real thing that happens to a lot of people. It's still an exception to get into a car crash.
There are way more examples of guys who could shoot in college but shoot worse in the NBA.
Really? Please enlighten me with this crazy amount of guys who could shoot in college but shot worse in the NBA. I would love to see a list.
This is a funny conversation to me. Yeah Flip shot 28% from 3 but I don't believe for a second that that number is indicative of how he will shoot in the pros. He has a great shooting stroke from the outside and there is no doubt in my mind that he is going to thrive as a stretch big. Sometimes with these young guys it is much more important to trust the eye test rather than just the numbers.
Go through any draft and look at the guys that didn't make it, if they aren't a big it's highly likely that the jump shot didn't translate.
Luke Kennard
32% freshman year (college)
38.3% in 2 years (college)
48.4% this year (NBA)
Malcolm Brogdon
32.4% freshman year (college)
36.5% in 4 years (college)
43.9% this year (NBA)
Gary Harris
37.6% in 2 years (college)
43.7% this year (NBA)
Tyrese Maxey
29.2% freshman year (college)
43.4% this year (NBA)
Corey Kispert
36.5% in 2 years (college)
43% this year (NBA)
Kawhi Leonard
25% in 2 years (college)
41.8% this year (NBA)
Jevon Carter
35.5% in 4 years (college)
41.7% this year (NBA)
Patrick Williams
32% freshman year (college)
41.4% this year (NBA)
Alec Burks
31.3% in 2 years (college)
41.4% this year (NBA)
Grant Williams
29.1% in 3 years (college)
40.2% this year (NBA)
This list is just from looking at the top-20 guys in the league in 3PT%. It’s almost like the NBA has WAY better spacing and you get WAY better shots when you’re not getting all of the defensive attention you get when you’re the best player on your team in college.
32% freshman year (college)
38.3% in 2 years (college)
48.4% this year (NBA)
Malcolm Brogdon
32.4% freshman year (college)
36.5% in 4 years (college)
43.9% this year (NBA)
Gary Harris
37.6% in 2 years (college)
43.7% this year (NBA)
Tyrese Maxey
29.2% freshman year (college)
43.4% this year (NBA)
Corey Kispert
36.5% in 2 years (college)
43% this year (NBA)
Kawhi Leonard
25% in 2 years (college)
41.8% this year (NBA)
Jevon Carter
35.5% in 4 years (college)
41.7% this year (NBA)
Patrick Williams
32% freshman year (college)
41.4% this year (NBA)
Alec Burks
31.3% in 2 years (college)
41.4% this year (NBA)
Grant Williams
29.1% in 3 years (college)
40.2% this year (NBA)
This list is just from looking at the top-20 guys in the league in 3PT%. It’s almost like the NBA has WAY better spacing and you get WAY better shots when you’re not getting all of the defensive attention you get when you’re the best player on your team in college.
Clowney is also a 65% FT shooter compared to Filipowski at 77%
And Filipowski was a 1st option. Clowney was like a 4th/5th option.
Hayward also shot sub 30% as a Sophomore. Austin Reaves shot 26% and 31% his two years at Oklahoma.
seattlejazzfan
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it's really hard to tell whose shooting is going to improve once they get to the league and who won't improve at all and who will regress. the mechanics is one thing to look at, but most people just have solid mechanics - nothing special, not terrible not Hawkins beautiful. and it isn't just about mechanics, it's work ethic, are they in the gym getting shots up, are they put in positions to succeed on their nba team, does the coach have patience with them, do they get the green light, nba spacing works better for some than others, etc, etc. so many factors, many you just can't see and have no clue of. draft good, skilled players, athletes, guys with length for their position, and hope for the best. kawhi is a great example - the spurs drafted a dude who was a really good college player, a guy who could defend, rebound, who played hard, had positional size. his stroke was okay, certainly nothing special, but i imagine they though they could work with it. worst case you get an energy guy who can defend multiple positions - best case, you get who kawhi became.
KO shot 33% in 3 years in college. Mitchell shot 33% in 2 years in college.