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2023 Trade Rumors and Gossip Involving the Jazz

Shad said:
Would anyone trade Victor for Luka straight across?
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Having Wemby as an asset for at least 7 years is better than 1-2 years of Luca to me. Plus we would lose not only Wemby, but also more players to match salaries and likely more picks.
 
I think the way to play this Wemby thing is to win the number one pick… then start a bunch of rumors and convos about Dallas trying to trade for Wemby using Luka… then we draft Wemby and later trade for Luka once he’s pissed about being in trade rumors… let’s make this an “and”question not an “or” question.
 
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Having Wemby as an asset for at least 7 years is better than 1-2 years of Luca to me. Plus we would lose not only Wemby, but also more players to match salaries and likely more picks.
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Would actually be 4 years of luka.
 
fishonjazz said:
Would actually be 4 years of luka.
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Thanks for the correction. I read the wrong line on HoopsHype. I still don't think he would be worth Wemby, matching salary and the probable other picks we would have to give up. He is great on offense, but pretty poor defensively. He seems out of shape and doesn't appear to care to resolve that. I'd hate to give up so much, especially players on favorable rookie deals. I might be a bit biased though as I really just don't like him after watching him numerous times. Not necessarily his game, but him.
 
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default said:
Having Wemby as an asset for at least 7 years is better than 1-2 years of Luca to me. Plus we would lose not only Wemby, but also more players to match salaries and likely more picks.
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This is so true. Why would I trade Wemby for a black hole that would cost me more players and salary?
 
Realistically, I would be fine sending Dallas Rudy Gay and whatever combination of 7 players/picks they want (except for Lauri). IMO, Dallas would take 1) Walker, 2) 2023 Jazz FRP, 3) 2027 Cavs FRP, 4) 2027 Wolves FRP, 5) 2027 Lakers FRP, 6) 2029 Cavs FRP, 7) 2028 Jazz FRP (with Cav's pick swap).

Still would leave Jazz with: Luka, Lauri, Ochai, Sexton, Olynyk, Dunn, a few other scrubs, ~$30 million in cap space & 9 first round picks: 1) 2023 Wolves, 2) 2023 76ers, 3) 2024/25 Jazz, 4) 2025 Cavs, 5) 2025 Wolves, 6) 2026 Jazz (with Cavs or Wolves swap), 7) 2027 Jazz, 8) 2029 Jazz FRP, 9) 2029 Wolves (top 5 protected). If Ainge can't build a championship team with that then he should just retire.
 
baka98 said:
This is so true. Why would I trade Wemby for a black hole that would cost me more players and salary?
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There is a decent chance that Wemby is not a star. There is also a decent chance that he is like Zion (star quality but can't stay on the court). Luka is a known MVP/Finals MVP tier player who hasn't even reached his peak.
 
I could see it go either way, but Wemby is supposed to be a generational talent a la Dr. J and he will cost $6 - $10 million for 4 years and not $40 - $50 million.

You can build a contender around Laur, Kessler, Wemby, and 2 all stars that you use assets to collect.

Not sure about a contender with Lauri, Luka, assrts, and no cap space.
 
checkbookdoc said:
Realistically, I would be fine sending Dallas Rudy Gay and whatever combination of 7 players/picks they want (except for Lauri). IMO, Dallas would take 1) Walker, 2) 2023 Jazz FRP, 3) 2027 Cavs FRP, 4) 2027 Wolves FRP, 5) 2027 Lakers FRP, 6) 2029 Cavs FRP, 7) 2028 Jazz FRP (with Cav's pick swap).

Still would leave Jazz with: Luka, Lauri, Ochai, Sexton, Olynyk, Dunn, a few other scrubs, ~$30 million in cap space & 9 first round picks: 1) 2023 Wolves, 2) 2023 76ers, 3) 2024/25 Jazz, 4) 2025 Cavs, 5) 2025 Wolves, 6) 2026 Jazz (with Cavs or Wolves swap), 7) 2027 Jazz, 8) 2029 Jazz FRP, 9) 2029 Wolves (top 5 protected). If Ainge can't build a championship team with that then he should just retire.
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There is no way I give this much for Luka, no way. I don't care if Wemby is a star or not. I don't care about Luka at all. Why would I give them Walker and all those picks [and I think it would take 1-2 more players from Dallas' perspective] for a player while very good, is a killer for team dynamics. He is not a team player. He is a black hole that isn't worth getting and mortgaging the future for. I am not and will never be a Luka fan, nor do I ever want to see him in a Jazz uni. Just suicide if you go after him. He's never accomplished anything, but scoring. He doesn't get in shape. He has toxic relationships with his team mates. I'm sorry, you will never convince me that he is the answer.
 
I remember when the Jazz traded all their roll players and their future picks for the player that would put the Gobert/Mitchel Jazz over the top. Conolly was a really good player, but that deal sunk any chance for the Jazz to improve for years .
 
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