Donald is about to go through some things...

[SteakNEggs]

Still waiting for you to read what's already been posted.

Where? You guys constantly do this. YOu say you have already provided this info but you are lying about it because you know it doesn't exist. We've been through this even back in the day. You continually say you have already provided evidence but you literally never do.

 

[One Brow]

Where?

This is the most recent time. The Senate Intelligence Report (produced when Republicans ran the Senate) is quoted as discussing the chairman of Trump's campaign being in regular contact with Russian intelligence officers. If you don't think that alone is worthy of investigation, you really don't merit further attention on this issue.

 

[SteakNEggs]

This is the most recent time. The Senate Intelligence Report (produced when Republicans ran the Senate) is quoted as discussing the chairman of Trump's campaign being in regular contact with Russian intelligence officers. If you don't think that alone is worthy of investigation, you really don't merit further attention on this issue.

Lol that proves nothing and has been debunked you Qanon. The collusion happened under Obama who literally allowed it and told his committee to "stand down". This has NOTHING to do with Trump. This is Obama literally allowing this so Putin would sign off on his Iran Deal.




"The Obama White House’s chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia’s attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a “back burner” after he was ordered to “stand down” his efforts in the summer of 2016.

The comments by Michael Daniel, who served as White House “cyber security coordinator” between 2012 and January of last year, provided his first public confirmation of a much-discussed passage in the book, “Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump,” co-written by this reporter and David Corn, that detailed his thwarted efforts to respond to the Russian attack."

Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks in summer 2016

Michael Daniel, Obama White House’s chief cyber official testified that proposals he was developing to counter Russia’s attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a “back burner” after he was ordered to “stand down” his efforts in the summer of 2016.

www.google.com

 

[One Brow]

Lol that proves nothing ...

You weren't asking for "proof", you asked for evidence the Russian connection was not "a blatant lie". It wasn't.

and has been debunked

The Senate Intelligence Report has been debunked? Now it's your turn to provide evidence.

This has NOTHING to do with Trump.

The chair of Trump's campaign has "NOTHING to do with Trump"? Provide evidence for this, please.

"The Obama White House’s chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia’s attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a “back burner” after he was ordered to “stand down” his efforts in the summer of 2016.

How is this related to Trump's campaign chair being in contact with Russian intelligence officers? Evidence, please.

 

[SteakNEggs]

You weren't asking for "proof", you asked for evidence the Russian connection was not "a blatant lie". It wasn't.


The Senate Intelligence Report has been debunked? Now it's your turn to provide evidence.


The chair of Trump's campaign has "NOTHING to do with Trump"? Provide evidence for this, please.


How is this related to Trump's campaign chair being in contact with Russian intelligence officers? Evidence, please.

There wasn't proof though. Nobody was charged nor even subpoenaed. This was found false when charges were actually brought fourth that were tax issues not colluding with Russia lol. Prove me wrong.

Yes.

Oh you mean the chair that was illegally spied upon and they found nothing. They actually had to apologize?

It's related as Obama literally was the one guilty of letting Russia Meddle. Not Trump. This all happened under Obama. He was the one that literally allowed it.

It's just embarrassing that the Democratic cult are going after Trunp for Stormy Daniels yet are silent when it comes to Russia. How absolutely naive are you guys? If there was something there, literally ANYTHING, the Democrat Cult would be obsessing about it like y'all do about everything Trump does. You guys playing stupid is nauseating.

 

[One Brow]

There wasn't proof though. Nobody was charged nor even subpoenaed.

Not all investigations pan out.

Yes.

Waiting for evidence...

Oh you mean the chair that was illegally spied upon and they found nothing. They actually had to apologize?

They found nothing illegal enough to bother charging. Meeting with Russian intelligence agents is the opposite of "nothing".

It's related as Obama literally was the one guilty of letting Russia Meddle.

How is this related to Trump's campaign chair being in contact with Russian intelligence officers? Are you claiming Obama force them into this?

 

[The Thriller]

Lol

Wow

 

[SteakNEggs]

They found nothing illegal enough to bother charging. Meeting with Russian intelligence agents is the opposite of "nothing"

Lol

Wow

 

[Red]

We now have the FBI admitting Russia was a complete fabricated hoax

This quote, the entire comment really, and most of your comments in this thread, is so typical of your MO: simply declare something to be a fact, as if there were no possibility of a different interpretation. Your entire approach amounts to “I have spoken, and my opinion is indisputable”. Very humble of you, you have a very, very high opinion of yourself.

But the FBI did not say the “Russia thing” was a “complete fabricated hoax”. That’s not the FBI. That’s you, and just you, declaring what reality is, and expecting that narrative to be the indisputable truth. It’s not. You always, ALWAYS, go waaay beyond what the facts dictate. Creating your own reality. But, reality just doesn’t work that way, no matter how many times you issue your boldly declarative proclamations: “we now have the FBI admitting Russia was a compete fabricated hoax”.

And you put a lot of effort into creating your alternate reality. That’s a lot of trolling for something that’s actually transparently silly, and factually bogus.

Here’s a searchable pdf of Part 1 of Mueller’s report. There you will find evidence that disproves your quote….

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Muelller-Report-Redacted-Vol-I-Released-04.18.2019-Word-Searchable.-Reduced-Size.pdf

 

[SteakNEggs]

This quote, the entire comment really, and most of your comments in this thread, is so typical of your MO: simply declare something to be a fact, as if there were no possibility of a different interpretation. Your entire approach amounts to “I have spoken, and my opinion is indisputable”. Very humble of you, you have a very, very high opinion of yourself.

But the FBI did not say the “Russia thing” was a “complete fabricated hoax”. That’s not the FBI. That’s you, and just you, declaring what reality is, and expecting that narrative to be the indisputable truth. It’s not. You always, ALWAYS, go waaay beyond what the facts dictate. Creating your own reality. But, reality just doesn’t work that way, no matter how many times you issue your boldly declarative proclamations: “we now have the FBI admitting Russia was a compete fabricated hoax”.

And you put a lot of effort into creating your alternate reality. That’s a lot of trolling for something that’s actually transparently silly, and factually bogus.

Here’s a searchable pdf of Part 1 of Mueller’s report. There you will find evidence that disproves your quote….

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Muelller-Report-Redacted-Vol-I-Released-04.18.2019-Word-Searchable.-Reduced-Size.pdf

I've provided plenty of evidence. I have exhausted this hoax with you guys over the years. I have put together what happened bit by bit. You just provide 3 paragraphs telling me I'm wrong and a link so amazingly broad with no substance purposely so you act like you know but you simply don't..

Here I'll point out the facts because again I know what happened. Unlike you, I can show the corruption. Ill start with a simple quote then provide part of the actual report unlike you ever do. Here Strzok admitting his corruption...

[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” Page texted Strzok.

"No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded.

• The FBl's actions with respect to other highly significant intelligence it received from a trusted foreign source pointing to a Clinton campaign plan to vilify Trump by tying him to Vladimir Putin so as to divert attention from her own concerns relating to her use of a private email server, Unlike the FBI's opening of a full investigation of unknown members of the Trump campaign based on raw, uncorroborated information, in this separate matter involving a purported Clinton campaign plan, the FBI never opened any type of inquiry, issued any taskings, employed any analytical personnel, or produced any analytical products in connection with the information.”
• "This lack of action was despite the fact that the significance of the Clinton plan intelligence was such as to have prompted the Director of the CIA to brief the President, Vice President, Attorney General, Director of the FBI, and other senior government officials about its content within days of its receipt It was also of enough importance for the CIA to send a formal written referral memorandum to Director Corney and the Deputy Assistant Director of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division, Peter Strzok, for their consideration and action."

"The speed and manner in which the FBI opened and investigated Crossfire Hurricane during the presidential election season based on raw, unanalyzed, and uncorroborated intelligence also reflected a noticeable departure from how it approached prior matters involving possible attempted foreign election interference plans aimed at the Clinton campaign,"

 

[SteakNEggs]

This quote, the entire comment really, and most of your

Here the FBI literally coordinated and colluded with the Clinton campaign to hide potential crimes within her email scandal and to put the onus on Trump despite literally no evidence. None... Zip...nada...zero. Not even an iota. Since you're so uneducated in this particular issue( you're smart but you're brainwashed) this ties back to the Steele Dossier in which Hilary paid Steele for literal Russian Propaganda like the pee tapes you hilariously pushed....

"In one such matter...FBI Headquarters and Department officials required defensive briefings to be provided to Clinton and other officials or candidates who appeared to be the targets of foreign interference, In another, the FBI elected to end an investigation after one of its longtime and valuable CHSs went beyond what was authorized and made an improper and possibly illegal financial contribution to the Clinton campaign on behalf of a foreign entity as a precursor to a much larger donation being contemplated. These examples are also markedly different from the FBl's actions with respect to other highly significant intelligence it received from a trusted foreign source pointing to a Clinton campaign plan to vilify Trump by tying him to Vladimir Putin so as to divert attention from her own concerns relating to her use of a private email server,"

 

[SteakNEggs]

...

I have to spam as this is vast. The corruption is so blatantly obvious and factual. Crazy thing is. None of you hypocrites will even acknowledge facts. You won't even touch them. You won't even admit it's wrong... but hey Trump allegedly paid a prostitute 7 years ago and guys spend months upon months upon months upon months on that. You just leave links with no substance and "clutch your pearls".

"Prior to providing the unfounded Alfa bank claims to the FBI, Sussmann and Fusion GPS (the Clinton campaign's opposition research firm) had provided the same information to various news organizations and were pressing reporters to write articles about the alleged secret communications channel, Moreover, during his September 2016 meeting at the FBI, Sussmann told Baker that an unnamed news outlet was in possession of the information and would soon publish a story about it."
"The disclosure of the media's involvement caused the FBI to contact the news outlet whose name was eventually provided by Sussmann in the hope of delaying any public reporting on the subject, In doing so it confirmed for the New York Times that the FBI was looking into the matter."
"On October 31, 2016, less than two weeks before the election, the New York Times and others published articles on the Alfa Bank matter and the Clinton campaign issued tweets and public statements on the allegations of a secret channel of communications being used by the Trump Organization and a Russian bank -allegations that had been provided to the media and the FBI by Fusion GPS and Sussmann, both of whom were working for the Clinton campaign,"

 

[Red]

I've provided plenty of evidence. I have exhausted this hoax with you guys over the years. I have put together what happened bit by bit.

You’ve provided no evidence whatsoever to support your claim “We now have the FBI admitting Russia was a complete fabricated hoax”. None. Which seems lame from the get go, considering Durham himself acknowledged the FBI was justified in opening a preliminary review of Trump-Russia ties.

No matter how many times, or in how many ways, you attempt to simply talk your reality into existence, that reality remains firmly lodged in your imagination…..

 

[SteakNEggs]

You’ve provided no evidence whatsoever to support your claim “We now have the FBI admitting Russia was a complete fabricated hoax”. None. Which seems lame from the get go, considering Durham himself acknowledged the FBI was justified in opening a preliminary review of Trump-Russia ties.

No matter how many times, or in how many ways, you attempt to simply talk your reality into existence, that reality remains firmly lodged in your imagination…..

"Unlike the FBI's opening of a full investigation of unknown members of the Trump campaign based on raw, uncorroborated information"

They literally opened the full investigation off of "raw uncorrobrated information" that later turned out to be 100% false lol. My goodness red. How much more direct does it need to be Qanon?

 

[One Brow]

Here Strzok admitting his corruption...

Where's the part where Strzok did anything illegal or corrupt?

 

[LogGrad98]

Weird, mongoose just disappeared and all of a sudden we are bombarded by steakandeggs. Where is mongoose to back him up!

 

[Mongoose]

I thought most people knew all of the Russia-gate stuff was made up by Hilary already.
If Trump were a Putin puppet I done believe he would have been selling arms to Ukraine and even ramping them up while he was in office, although he did so reluctantly.

US officials say lethal weapons headed to Ukraine

The new arms include American-made Javelin anti-tank missiles.

www.cnbc.com

The media after painting Trump as Putins Puppet all along can't blame Trump for escalating the conflict and angering Russia by sending arms to Ukraine, because why would he want to anger his puppet master? If anything Trump was more hawkish towards Russia during his presidency.
I wonder why both Obama and Trump were hesitant to sending weapons to Ukraine? I wonder if it was because they were aware it would anger Russia and escalate the conflict? Hmmm... Even Bush was reluctant to send weapons to Ukraine during his presidency.
Now Dems have to pretend the war in Ukraine is a virtuous thing and the death of hundreds of thousands of people is something we should all be in support of. While Trump now gets to play diplomat and say the right things about how we should be brokering peace and working towards a resolution.
This article mentions a few times that Obama was concerned about supplying Ukraine with weapons. "Giving Ukraine lethal weapons had been a red line for Obama, who feared that it could cause Russia to escalate conflict."

Trump Resisted Sale of Javelins to Ukraine

Republicans are defending him in the impeachment inquiry by saying he gave more military aid than his predecessor, but it came only after the reluctant…

foreignpolicy.com

Russia is a very bad actor, and Putin is a horrible person for his war crimes and the invasion of Ukraine. There is evidence though that both presidents Trump, and Obama who seemingly can't agree on anything both reluctantly sent aid to Ukraine at the behest of the pentagon, department of defense, etc. To think that the military industrial complex and the imperialism of the US is not also a very bad actor in the world is silly. You see it doesn’t really matter which party is in charge because the powers that be are beholden to military industrial complex. That’s just my opinion though. I’m not a trumper but I have to keep in mind that the propagandized folks here only get their news and opinions from watching the view.
It’s easier to fool someone than convince them they’ve been fooled.

 

[One Brow]

I wonder if it was because they were aware it would anger Russia and escalate the conflict?

Since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, there was not much to escalate.

You see it doesn’t really matter which party is in charge because the powers that be are beholden to military industrial complex.

If the only thing that mattered was the military-industrial complex, I would agree with you. However, there are other differences between the parties, some of which are very significant to me.

It’s easier to fool someone than convince them they’ve been fooled.

It's even easier to call people fools.

 

[The Thriller]

Bahahahahaha!

 

[Mongoose]

Since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, there was not much to escalate.


If the only thing that mattered was the military-industrial complex, I would agree with you. However, there are other differences between the parties, some of which are very significant to me.


It's even easier to call people fools.

Like what, all the things the dems have failed to deliver on?
I didn’t call anyone a fool, but I don’t think many here will recognize that my opinion differs from steakandeggs because my opinion differs from those expressed on the view and that’s all that matters to them.