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Trade up? What are you willing to give up?

Here’s a question what is the lowest you’d go to move up with 9/16?

Would you do it for 7 or would the minimum be 6?

What about all 3? Would you do that for 6 or would the minimum be 5?
It's not the pick, its the player.

Let's take Wemby, Scoot, Miller, and Amen off the table.

Ausar or Cam, I think you have to do it. Then it's pretty tricky. If the FO fell in love with Hendricks enough to aggressively go get him, I would be excited that they like him so much, so I guess I'm fine with that. Walker is unlikely to hit #9 and so you probably have to be okay with that too. But that's kind of it. Black is the only player left who is less than like 65% to be available at #9 anyway.
 
I think it's crucial to trade up before the draft happens, like for 6th for instance. Otherwise, the trade cost goes extremely high during the time of the draft when a really good player starts dropping. It's a lot more difficult to move up then. Anyway, I'd keep an eye on Dallas. They might drop in into 8th and grab a good player right under from us. lol
 
It would be a little bit of controlling our own destiny if they don’t like the pg options. I do think if you had Walker or Hendricks in hand an offer to Portland for 3 looks a lot better. A little two step. Just whatever happens don’t punt on 28 but splitting into future second round picks.
If we got Walker at 9 I'm ripping the phone out of the wall and grabbing a beer.

I don't even drink beer.
 
I think I call whatever GM is running the Wiz right now and ask if 9/28 works for 8. How dug in on draft prep are they… one spot for one pick?

Not sure I would definitely execute but I can see those guys going real conservative as an interim GM and going Cason over Black and Ausar/Walker/Hendricks… Ausar may not have extra appeal to the Blazers unless Schmitz is a fan but if you had one of the other two the offer to Porty looks so much sweeter as both of those guys fit really well and can at least be functional in a bench role very early.

If we can land one of those dudes we can likely finesse our way up from 16 to Black (assuming Wiz get conservative) without a huge cost… or you go Bufkin or sign a pg in FA if all those options are gone.

I just wish we had lost like 5 more games.
 
I can't believe people would consider trading him only for 1 pick even if it is #3. He is worth more than Rudy or Donovan packages to me.
If we could trade Lauri for the Donovan package then we’ve discovered the perpetual talent machine since we’d be getting back Lauri.

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Basically yes again. It just that if you want Portlands 3rd pick, you had to give them something, which gives them change to win it all in next 1-3 years(?). And thats player like Embiid from Philadelphia. And Philadelphia sells Embiid only if they get something valuable back like good players and first round picks. More like a bunch of first round picks to be exact. But if Portland sends in 3 team trade Nurtic and A.Simmons to Philadelphia, Philadelphia can accept on pick less from us. And then it might be something like 9, 16,, 28, lakers first and 1-3(?) other firsts from us to Philadelphia? It still something like 5-7 first rounders (one is just late 28), but as i said earlier Utah had a bunch of first in next 5 years (13?) and you basically have to acquire some players with them anyway. And Scoot is one of the best point guard prospects in the last few years in my and some experts opinion and could be 1st overall pick in many other drafts. And we would still have what 7(?) first round picks in next 5 years and chance to acquire more good players in draft or trade or free agency. And our core would then be Lauri, Walker, Scoot + sexton, occhi (valuable players and about same age group) and some others (THT?) for next >5 years. And then I think that you probably just need one more good piece (forward?) to be very competitive in next >5 years. And if Scoot is not available in 3rd pick i would be very happy to draft Brandon MIller with Portland 3rd pick.
of So Utah pays the price to get Embiid (MVP of the league), but then doesn't actually get Embiid.
 
The main issue is, if Portland is wanting immediate help, the only players in that position are Lauri and Kessler and I doubt that Utah trades both. All things equal, if whomever falls to 3 becomes "that guy" and we can get them without trading Lauri or Kessler, our rebuild is pretty much set for the framework of the team going forward. But we're going to have to trade one or both of Kessler and Lauri to make that work and I don't see it happening.
 
It probably needs to be a 3 team deal but Danny for sure has assets to make it work. Without giving up Lauri or Walker.
 
Sexton + #9 might get the Jazz to #6 or even #5, depending on what they take back. I have little confidence that the Jazz see Sexton as a core piece longer term. I think he was a rehabilitation project.
Overall, I agree that the Jazz don’t necessarily see him as a core piece moving forward, but I’d be sad to see him go. I really like Collin. I’d still make that deal in a heartbeat - if it lands the Jazz their highest rated wing outside the top 4, and then see who falls to #16.

Would also be willing to look at taking on a salary dump and/or a protected future pick to move up from the Jazz other spots as well. I don’t want to invest too many assets into this draft, but I want DA and Hardy to walk away from this draft with the three best players they can get their hands on. Gotta pay to play, and this is a great year for the Jazz to be aggressive in the draft and trades. Thankfully, DA has never been shy about being aggressive.
 
Listening to a blazers guy in the athletic pod. He thinks any deal would include Simons and the 3rd pick. I think Simons is actually pretty good but the guy seemed to make it out like it needs to be Sharpe or Simons… so maybe he doesn’t want to come off the bench. Boy if you could finesse your way to Sexton (bench piece) picks for Simons and 3 that might be a home run like no other. I think there is a way you could get Collins to Portland and get them 9, 15, and a future pick so they can make another deal.

If Toronto doesn’t get aggressive on the #3 front I think there is an opportunity for us. It sounds like from what the guy was saying they will be very likely to move the pick.
 
I’d love to trade THT, Sexton, or Ochai to upgrade any of our picks.
 
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