jazz depth= secret weapon

[jumpin bean]

It seems that the silver lining to this season may be the depth of this team.Guys like Ginobli Dwill and Dwade and many others on teams are hurt and like last game with the shorthanded bucks gave us a huge advantage.Iknow we had a lil bite of the injury bug last night but not anything to derail the ship,so with this secret weapon of alot of good players that can fill in and keep us competitive while injuries can derail alot of teams this year ,how far can this strength take us? to the playoffs,or just good enough to take us to a worse pick?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

It seems that the silver lining to this season may be the depth of this team.Guys like Ginobli Dwill and Dwade and many others on teams are hurt and like last game with the shorthanded bucks gave us a huge advantage.Iknow we had a lil bite of the injury bug last night but not anything to derail the ship,so with this secret weapon of alot of good players that can fill in and keep us competitive while injuries can derail alot of teams this year ,how far can this strength take us? to the playoffs,or just good enough to take us to a worse pick?

Secret weapon? I, and many others on the board, said this could be a big advantage prior to the season starting. Go jump back into seclusion beanclown.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

The Jazz's chief weapon is surprise... and fear.

Our two weapons are surprise, fear.. and ruthless efficiency.

Our three weapons are surprise, fear, ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to spelling and grammar.

Amongst our weaponry are surprise, fear, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to spelling and grammar... and a night out at a Jazz game.

Aaaaarghhhhh!

Cardinal Biggles, you will have to say it.

 

[jumpin bean]

loosetooth your so funny.I think we may make the playoffs just because of this factor ,and I didnt see you thought of that and thats why I asked the question.

 

[LjJazzman]

The Jazz's chief weapon is surprise... and fear.

Our two weapons are surprise, fear.. and ruthless efficiency.

Our three weapons are surprise, fear, ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to spelling and grammar.

Amongst our weaponry are surprise, fear, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to spelling and grammar... and a night out at a Jazz game.

Aaaaarghhhhh!

Cardinal Biggles, you will have to say it.

After the first line I was hoping thats the direction you were going. Rep'd, thats how I plea.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Our best secret weapon apparently, is that when we don't play good teams we don't get blown out....

As usual, Jazz fans go crazy when we win... Even if it was against a crappy Bucks team playing without Bogut in SLC....

I don't buy the depth issue at all. We have some size inside. But I wouldn't exactly call us deep... Having a 4 guard rotation of Hayward, CJ, Raja, and Burks doesn't scare anyone. You combine all 4 and you might have a half decent wing. Harris, Earl, and Tinsley is ok... It's not great. But it's okay.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I don't buy the depth issue at all. We have some size inside. But I wouldn't exactly call us deep...

How many players do we have that can spend time at the PG spot?
4 - Harris, Watson, Tinsley, Burks

How many players do we have that can hold down the 5 spot?
3- Jefferson, Favors, Kanter

How many players do we have that can play the 4?
5- Jefferson, Favors, Kanter, Milsap, Evans

How many players do we have that can play the 3?
4- Howard, Hayward, CJ, Evans

How many players do we have that can play the 2?
3- Hayward, Burks, CJ ... Bell can be a body, but he sucks too much to put on the list.

That would be called depth. If Jefferson got hurt, we wouldn't really be hurting for somebody to play his spot. If CJ got hurt we wouldn't cry because of the "drop off" in productivity... ok, bad example. If Harris got hurt, we wouldn't really cry that Watson got more minutes. We have guys that can play and fill in pretty much any spot at or close to the same level as the other guys. In my world, that would be considered depth.

/argument

 

[Deleted member 365]

How many players do we have that can spend time at the PG spot?
4 - Harris, Watson, Tinsley, Burks

How many players do we have that can hold down the 5 spot?
3- Jefferson, Favors, Kanter

How many players do we have that can play the 4?
5- Jefferson, Favors, Kanter, Milsap, Evans

How many players do we have that can play the 3?
4- Howard, Hayward, CJ, Evans

How many players do we have that can play the 2?
3- Hayward, Burks, CJ ... Bell can be a body, but he sucks too much to put on the list.

That would be called depth. If Jefferson got hurt, we wouldn't really be hurting for somebody to play his spot. If CJ got hurt we wouldn't cry because of the "drop off" in productivity... ok, bad example. If Harris got hurt, we wouldn't really cry that Watson got more minutes. We have guys that can play and fill in pretty much any spot at or close to the same level as the other guys. In my world, that would be considered depth.

/argument

Having a bunch of average or below average players doesn't make a team deep.

Unfortunately, the Jazz have 1-3 have a host of average to below average players. I'm sorry folks, but Hayward isn't Larry Bird and CJ isn't Ray Allen. And Raja... Yikes... Can we really even call him an NBA player still?

The mere fact that for the most part our 1-3s have been unimpressive has actually forced Corbin to look for new lineups. Think Burks would be getting any burn if Raja could just do what most had hoped he could do when he signed his contract?

The Jazz are not a deep team yet.

 

[Stoked]

Having a bunch of average or below average players doesn't make a team deep.

Unfortunately, the Jazz have 1-3 have a host of average to below average players. I'm sorry folks, but Hayward isn't Larry Bird and CJ isn't Ray Allen. And Raja... Yikes... Can we really even call him an NBA player still?

The mere fact that for the most part our 1-3s have been unimpressive has actually forced Corbin to look for new lineups. Think Burks would be getting any burn if Raja could just do what most had hoped he could do when he signed his contract?

The Jazz are not a deep team yet.

Hayward will bever be a Ray Allen level shooter. However I think he will do alot of the little things and hopefully be a piece that makes this chaos we call the Jazz work.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Hayward will bever be a Ray Allen level shooter. However I think he will do alot of the little things and hopefully be a piece that makes this chaos we call the Jazz work.

This is key.

Right now we have a lot of players that COULD or WILL be good.

Unfortunately, they're not very good right now. Hayward, our best wing, is averaging 8 points on 42 % shooting and 27 % 3 pt shooting. Yikes.

We're not a very deep or good team right now. And it shows with our record. We're decent against crappy teams at home. We're pathetic against good teams on the road. We have yet to beat a team with a winning record. Those teams we've played with winning records, have destroyed us by double digits. Sometimes, you just can't argue with results even if your emotions are just soooo soooo soooo tied up with this team.

We are still a few trades/drafts away and a good 2-3 years away from being considered a "deep" team. That's the truth. Doesn't mean it has to be horrible to watch this team grow up. But it does mean that folks need to be a tad more realistic. This team isn't deep or very good right now.

 

[Stoked]

This is key.

Right now we have a lot of players that COULD or WILL be good.

Unfortunately, they're not very good right now. Hayward, our best wing, is averaging 8 points on 42 % shooting and 27 % 3 pt shooting. Yikes.

We're not a very deep or good team right now. And it shows with our record. We're decent against crappy teams at home. We're pathetic against good teams on the road. We have yet to beat a team with a winning record. Those teams we've played with winning records, have destroyed us by double digits. Sometimes, you just can't argue with results even if your emotions are just soooo soooo soooo tied up with this team.

We are still a few trades/drafts away and a good 2-3 years away from being considered a "deep" team. That's the truth. Doesn't mean it has to be horrible to watch this team grow up. But it does mean that folks need to be a tad more realistic. This team isn't deep or very good right now.

Oh I agree. None of them are there yet and chances are that not all of them will develop as we want. I am hoping for 3 out of 4 though. I am not expecting playoffs or anything really huge this year. This year should be used to see if the pieces we have are the proper pieces to "move forward" with. Then make the necessary changes and draft picks based on that.

 

[carolinajazz]

...well, we play the grizzles next at home and they are without Randolph...so that helps our cause!