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Jim Jordan is the choice for Speaker?

fishonjazz said:
Democrats could have said no to maga. Instead they said yes to MAGA


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The Republicans have the majority, they get to choose their own Speaker. Been that way for 240 years. The Democrats can do very little, as they don't have a majority.

I have yet to hear what the Democrats gain by supporting McCarthy.
 
Sardines said:
I think this has been an embarrassment for the GOP.

I think this new speaker is going to continue to be an embarrassment for the GOP.

I think the GOP is going to have a very hard election cycle.
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I hope. Sadly I think that the people who voted the GOP folks into office will continue to vote for them in their districts. Nothing will change imo.
 
One Brow said:
The Republicans have the majority, they get to choose their own Speaker. Been that way for 240 years. The Democrats can do very little, as they don't have a majority.

I have yet to hear what the Democrats gain by supporting McCarthy.
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MAGA needed democrats to get rid of mccarthy. MAGA wanted mccarthy gone. Democrats could have told MAGA to shove it up their *** and demonstrated their lack of power. Democrats instead said yes to MAGA and made them look powerful.
 
Trump wanted mccarthy gone. Democrats were like "yes master. Whatever you want master"

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‘Get Ready For It’: Political Strategist Issues Dire Prediction About Mike Johnson

The new House speaker is “every bit the flamethrower” as Jim Jordan but “just wears a pair of glasses and dons a Clark Kent disguise,” warned Chai Komanduri.
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Komanduri said extremist Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) kickstarted the ousting of Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) from the role three weeks ago at “the behest” of Donald Trump because McCarthy “did not shut down the government and create an atmosphere of chaos by which” the former president could win back the White House.

But Johnson will “do Donald Trump’s bidding,”

“Get ready for it. We’ll have a government shutdown,” he predicted. “We’re going to shut down aid to Ukraine to help Trump’s major benefactor, [Russian President] Vladimir Putin. That’s what’s going to occur.”

Johnson is “every bit the flamethrower” as Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), who lost his bid to become speaker despite being endorsed by Trump.
 
Mccarthy took 15 votes to get the speakership. Johnson took one vote to achieve the speakership.

Johnson won the speakership after the first full House vote with him as the GOP’s nominee, with all Republicans in the chamber voting for him. By contrast, McCarthy’s victory came on the fifteenth ballot.

Gaetz praised Johnson as someone who “obeys almighty God and the Constitution before all else,”

Johnson had a leading role in trying to overturn the 2020 election results, supports a national abortion ban, and opposes same-sex marriage.


I would love to have mccarthy back.
 
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Critics Say Matt Gaetz's Nickname For New House Speaker Is Alarmingly On Point

"House Republicans' words, not ours," tweeted Rep. Don Beyer, a Virginia Democrat.
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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) called the new House speaker “MAGA Mike Johnson” on Wednesday and onlookers suggested the moniker was, unfortunately, a good fit.

“MAGA is ascendant,” Gaetz told Steve Bannon on the ex-Donald Trump adviser’s podcast.

“If you don’t think that moving from Kevin McCarthy to MAGA Mike Johnson shows the ascendance of this movement and where the power in the Republican Party truly lies, then you’re not paying attention,” Gaetz said, referring to the ousted former House speaker.

Gaetz was angry that McCarthy worked with Democrats to avert a government shutdown and did not acquiesce to other demands of a hard-right faction of lawmakers.

Republicans cycled through three nominees before managing to agree on Johnson, who holds extreme views on rights for women and LGBTQ+ people and led a push to throw out the 2020 election results on Trump’s behalf.

This is the biggest power grab for Trumpist since they won the White House. The #AmericanInsurgency has won the Speaker’s gavel. & #OurEnemiesAreCelebrating.
 
One Brow said:
What would McCarthy do differently?
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not shut down the government when trump and maga tell him to. Not be maga choice. Not be called MAGA kevin. Basically be less crappy than MAGA mike.
 
fishonjazz said:
Komanduri said extremist Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) kickstarted the ousting of Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) from the role three weeks ago at “the behest” of Donald Trump because McCarthy “did not shut down the government and create an atmosphere of chaos by which” the former president could win back the White House.
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Wouldn't a prolonged shutdown be bad for Trump, as well as most Republicans in general?
 
MT Steve said:
Wouldn't a prolonged shutdown be bad for Trump, as well as most Republicans in general?
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Nope. Just blame it on who is the president. Simple. Most people are too stupid to know WHY the government is shut down they just know that it is shut down and the president is in charge of everything now.
Are/were high gas prices and inflation all bidens fault? Nope. How about the war in russia and gaza? Nope. But many think that trump has a magic fix all prices and end all wars button that biden either doesn't have or wont use. Same thoughts will dominate with a government shutdown.
 
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fishonjazz said:
not shut down the government when trump and maga tell him to. Not be maga choice. Not be called MAGA kevin. Basically be less crappy than MAGA mike.
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I see it as the opposite. The government has essentially been shut down for the past three weeks because of McCarthy's inability to keep his own side in line. There is much to be seen with regards to how capable Mike Johnson is at fundraising, recruiting candidates, and back room negotiating but so far it looks like he's better positioned to get his caucus to toe the line.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
I see it as the opposite. The government has essentially been shut down for the past three weeks because of McCarthy's inability to keep his own side in line. There is much to be seen with regards to how capable Mike Johnson is at fundraising, recruiting candidates, and back room negotiating but so far it looks like he's better positioned to get his caucus to toe the line.
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Well if McCarthy would have got his caucus to toe the line then the government would have actually been shut down for the past three weeks rather than just essentially shut down. Trump wants biden to look bad to voters. Government being shutdown while biden is in charge looks bad to voters, regardless of why its shut down. trump gets what he wants when it comes to the gop. The gop has the majority in the house. therefore the government will get shut down.
 
fishonjazz said:
not shut down the government when trump and maga tell him to. Not be maga choice. Not be called MAGA kevin. Basically be less crappy than MAGA mike.
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Did Johnson vote against the continuing resolution before? For the most part, he supported it.

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He doesn't plan to let the government shut down.
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Speaker Mike Johnson has a plan to avoid a shutdown, and the far right is fine with it

With three weeks until the deadline, even the ultraconservative Republicans who overthrew Kevin McCarthy say they're willing to give the new speaker room on a short-term bill.
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I think they're equally crappy.
 
fishonjazz said:
Well if McCarthy would have got his caucus to toe the line then the government would have actually been shut down for the past three weeks rather than just essentially shut down. Trump wants biden to look bad to voters. Government being shutdown while biden is in charge looks bad to voters, regardless of why its shut down. trump gets what he wants when it comes to the gop. The gop has the majority in the house. therefore the government will get shut down.
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Keeping your caucus in line doesn't mean caving in to the crazies. For her faults, Pelosi is great at it. There are multiple instances of Pelosi getting the squad to back off whatever crazy line they demanded the left pursue. McCarthy could not do with his crazies what Pelosi did with hers. McCarthy was not as good a leader as Pelosi. As embarrassing as this whole process has been, McCarthy did have to go.
 
One Brow said:
Did Johnson vote against the continuing resolution before? For the most part, he supported it.

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Vote Smart provides free, unbiased, in-depth information about current officials, candidates, issues, legislation, and voting. Non-partisan and nonprofit since 1988.
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He doesn't plan to let the government shut down.
www.nbcnews.com

Speaker Mike Johnson has a plan to avoid a shutdown, and the far right is fine with it

With three weeks until the deadline, even the ultraconservative Republicans who overthrew Kevin McCarthy say they're willing to give the new speaker room on a short-term bill.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

I think they're equally crappy.
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I hope you are right. We will see. One thing is certain. MAGA wanted mccarthy gone and wanted johnson in his place. I dont typically trust what maga wants to also be what is good for the country. maybe this time will be different.
 
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