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Game Thread Nov 02, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Magic

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HermanG said:
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What a truly bizarre attempt to overcomplicate things.

Look, I know Collins is your boy. I know it hurts. But this time he straight up got abused. The Magic spread the floor for Banchero and it was mano a mano from there. In that situation you do whatever it takes to stop a guy from getting a layup. You live with a 3, you live with a pull-up, you take a hard foul if necessary. But above all, you stay between your man and the basket. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be there. Banchero didn't even need a screener. He got Collins on his hip and it was over. Sure he made a tough lefty shot, but the Magic will take that one 10 times out of 10 instead of some tough fadeaway jumper or rushed heave from the perimeter.

The Jazz were not going to gelp off any of the other players and that was the right choice. Sometimes it really is that simple – either you stay in front of your guy or don't. Collins is not a good defender and the Magic knew it. No need to scapegoat anyone else.
 
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I sometimes question Collins' effort. Then I think maybe he's just a vet conserving a little energy early in the season. Which is it?
 
Tremendous Upside said:
What a truly bizarre attempt to overcomplicate things.

Look, I know Collins is your boy. I know it hurts. But this time he messed up. The Magic spread the floor for Banchero and it was mano a mano from there. In that situation you do whatever it takes to stop a guy from getting a layup. You live with a 3, you live with a pull-up, you take a hard foul if necessary. But above all, you stay between your man and the basket. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be there. Banchero didn't even need a screener.

The Jazz were not going to gelp off any of the other players and that was the right choice. Sometimes it really is that simple – either you stay in front of your guy or don't. Collins is not a good defender and the Magic knew it. No need to scapegoat anyone else.
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I'm not claiming great or even good defense on that play. I'm just exposing your takes.

Also the fact that you ignored Collins forcing Paolo to his weaker hand twice now tells me you either have an agenda or lack some basic basketball understanding.
 
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fishonjazz said:
Oh how you were missed. Nice to have you back. Ok brother now go take your seat at the kids table with the others that dont know ball.
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Fish you couldn't even run up and down a NBA court twice much less hit a shot at the end of a game on a b2b. Just such a ludicrous thing to think you, a middle overaged overweight dude could make shots in the NBA if you were open.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Fish you couldn't even run up and down a NBA court twice much less hit a shot at the end of a game on a b2b. Just such a ludicrous thing to think you, a middle overaged overweight dude could make shots in the NBA if you were open.
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You are super soft that you get so riled up so easy and resort to insults on the regular. Poor fella. As for you comment, you are putting words in my mouth. All I said is I think that nba players are good at making wide open threes. Weird how that could be a controversial statement. But then again, you are back and back to form.
Also im 6 foot 3 and 200lbs even. Overweight? not really.
 
The Magic may have suffered two significant injuries toward the end of the game. Wendall Carter Jr broke his hand and will probably miss a minimum two to three weeks and Gary Harris had a groin injury that may put him out for a significant period.
 

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In all the talk about messed up plays or missed shots, THT gets a clutch AF steal and would have had a wide open dunk if Clarkson was able to get a pass off here.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It was a ****ing incredible move by Banchero.

Walker has been cheeks and a half. The dude has confidence issues. I don't trust him to do anything currently. He could hardly catch passes or finish the last two games.
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Yeah, I have to wonder if the USA experience in Kerr’s small ball schemes and just riding the bench, didn’t hurt his confidence some.
 
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