Trade ideas

[infection]

Timothe Horton-Tucker

Is this the combo reference I think it is?

 

[RyGuy]

I'm definitely on board trading Lauri to OKC for a big overpay. I'm just curious though with the new CBA and the second apron tax can the Jazz still get a Gobert like level package for Lauri? Not that OKC doesn't have the assets to pull it off but would they financially be committed to it?

 

[Bawse Dawg]

How can you **** on THT but want Giddey?

One is one of the best young passers in the league and one is pretending to be a PG?

I don’t hate THT and get the shooting concerns, but are you saying they are the same kind of player?

A lot more… I want the Houston and Clips picks on top of Giddey and our pick back.

Yes, in case I didn’t make it clear you only give up Lauri for the godfather offer. He has insane value and can fit it on any team in the league. I would love to keep him, I just wish I could see the path forward more clearly.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If it happens here is the process I go through first… give it 5-6 games to see how things are going with the current alignment. If no improvement go ahead and give Keyonte the starting gig and tell him to be like 50% more aggressive with the ball (doesn’t mean shoot it all the time but go to work). If it looks real promising I may not even take calls on Lauri. If it looks rough… I consider it if calls are coming in. I’d probably want 20+ games at least with Keyonte as a focus before making any kind of decision on the directions we are willing to go.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

One is one of the best young passers in the league and one is pretending to be a PG?

I don’t hate THT and get the shooting concerns, but are you saying they are the same kind of player?


Yes, in case I didn’t make it clear you only give up Lauri for the godfather offer. He has insane value and can fit it on any team in the league. I would love to keep him, I just wish I could see the path forward more clearly.

They aren't as different as you'd like to think. I don't think Giddey is a PG. He's a tall playmaker who can't shoot.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm not the biggest fan of Giddey but he is a more cerebral player than THT. I think he will shoot it fine as a catch and shoot guy but likely never an off the dribble guy. I think he's a great passer playmaker but might be a guy that limits your ceiling. The draft capital would be the biggest appeal and i see Giddey as the best guy I think we could get on top of a draft pick haul. I'd probably be fine with Cason and Dieng if they want to keep Josh. I think they might love Cason and his fit so might actually prefer to move on from Giddey if they are pushing in to win now.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

They aren't as different as you'd like to think. I don't think Giddey is a PG. He's a tall playmaker who can't shoot.

Fair enough, I'm not scoffing at tall playmaker though. That's a need.

And I will be generous and grant him bad, but improving, shooter.

It seems at minimum he is rich mans THT, so your aversion to him does puzzle me a bit.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Fair enough, I'm not scoffing at tall playmaker though. That's a need.

And I will be generous and grant him bad, but improving, shooter.

It seems at minimum he is rich mans THT, so your aversion to him does puzzle me a bit.

I just don't think you can play a guy who can't shoot with Walker. Maybe if we get Sarr it's different, but I want no part of adding additional non shooters to a Walker Kessler team

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If Giddey was free I'd love him just like tH

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I will not settle for less than amazing value if we did move Lauri. We have the opportunity and means to do a re-negotiate and extend for him. If he refuses this offseason we can still get 3+ picks for him as an expiring to a team he is more willing to sign with. If we sign him and continue to suck... he's still as good of an asset if he is resigned.

2025/2026 should have some superstar talent in the draft... Flagg and Boozers. This year we are probably already pretty tanky so nbd. If we did decide to tank for 2025/26 it sucks but it really screws over OKC as the pick we owe becomes a second if we are bottom 10 next year and bottom 8 the following year. So for them... us moving Lauri already neuters that picks value. We would also have a window to see:

1- If Keyonte pops
2- If the 2024 draft pick is good
3- If Taylor or other young guys are good
4- If Lauri will re-up long term

So IF they or anyone does want him that's fine... but make a stupid high offer.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm guessing Josh's rep is a little overheated for how good he is as a player... similarly THT maybe a little cooler for how he is as a player. Maybe Giddey gets routed to a third team if DA isn't a fan. I still think OKC is the source of the most value and Lauri should be one of the top targets they'd have throughout the league given age, skillset, fit, etc.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I just don't think you can play a guy who can't shoot with Walker. Maybe if we get Sarr it's different, but I want no part of adding additional non shooters to a Walker Kessler team

Walker is a small piece, I don't think he should limit any moves we potentially make. We aren't building a team around Kessler.

If Giddey was free I'd love him just like tH

And would want to give him a massive deal like THT, I hope.