The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

[fishonjazz]

I agree. He has good mechanics. He'll get better. I think he's tired, can't be easy at his age and with his body suddenly playing 30 every other night.

Sounds like we all agree. You, cy, herman, and myself all agree that he is a bad shooter right now but has good mechanics and will likely get better (though the fact that he was also a bad shooter prior to NBA could mean he just isn't going to be a good shooter)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sounds like we all agree. You, cy, herman, and myself all agree that he is a bad shooter right now but has good mechanics and will likely get better (though the fact that he was also a bad shooter prior to NBA could mean he just isn't going to be a good shooter)

Good God shut up.

 

[fishonjazz]

Good God shut up.

Are you on crack?
You said he isn't a good shooter right now.
Straightline says he agrees with you and you give him a thumbs up.
I say herman and I also agree with you and I get insulted.
Yep, must be the crack

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Are you on crack?
You said he isn't a good shooter right now.
Straightline says he agrees with you and you give him a thumbs up.
I say herman and I also agree with you and I get insulted.
Yep, must be the crack

That's not what I said. Please stop trying to simply everything down to a first grade reading level.

 

[fishonjazz]

That's not what I said. Please stop trying to simply everything down to a first grade reading level.

You said "Obviously he is not a great shooter"
We all agree about that. Is it upsetting to you that we all agree?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You said "Obviously he is not a great shooter"
We all agree about that. Is it upsetting to you that we all agree?

Great and good are two different thing.

It's just annoying as hell to argue with someone who changes the words you use to craft some BS conclusion.

Muted

 

[HermanG]

There's more to shot selection than the basic data you have available. There's rhythm, time/score, etc.

Obviously he is not a great shooter, but if he was more selective about the shots he took and when he took them, he would shoot better. He is not a 27% shooter.

When the game is tied or within 5 points either way he shoots even worse. If Spurs are trailing by anything less than 16 he shoots 25% or worse.


He has hit more difficult shots better, and is abysmal on catch and shoot:


He has taken 4.6 of his 5.6 attempts in either very early, early or average clock situations, and has actually hit his late clock shots with better rate:

 

[fishonjazz]

Great and good are two different thing.

It's just annoying as hell to argue with someone who changes the words you use to craft some BS conclusion.

Muted

You used the word obviously as well. Which would imply that it's obvious he isn't a great shooter. I read between the lines there.
Do you think he is a good shooter right now? (You didn't say you thought he was a good shooter btw so I'm just trying to make sure I understand you)

So you wouldn't have got all butt hurt if I would have said "I agree that it's obvious he isn't a great shooter" instead of "i agree he is a bad shooter right now"
Looks kinda silly to me too get that upset over what amounts to about the same thing especially when it's obvious that he is in fact a bad shooter right now.
The evidence is overwhelming and only someone who is on crack, doesn't know ball, who belongs at the kids table and should just shut up would think otherwise

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

When the game is tied or within 5 points either way he shoots even worse. If Spurs are trailing by anything less than 16 he shoots 25% or worse.
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He has hit more difficult shots better, and is abysmal on catch and shoot:
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He has taken 4.6 of his 5.6 attempts in either very early, early or average clock situations, and has actually hit his late clock shots with better rate:
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Ok. Still a good shooter who I wouldn't want to leave open

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Like I'm sure nearly everyone here would laugh at the notion of THT being a better shooter than Keyonte George....

The idea of using small sample size a handful of games into a guys rookie career and overanalyzing it vs what your eyes tell you is just funny.

 

[HermanG]

Like I'm sure nearly everyone here would laugh at the notion of THT being a better shooter than Keyonte George....

The idea of using small sample size a handful of games into a guys rookie career and overanalyzing it vs what your eyes tell you is just funny.

His full 2021-22 season in France: 26% on 3.1 attempts per game.
His full 2022-23 season in France: 27.5% on 5.0 attempts per game.

Enough of a sample size?

 

[fishonjazz]

Ok. Still a good shooter who I wouldn't want to leave open

I hope the jazz guard him with Collin Sexton when he is on the perimeter and beg him to shoot it.