John Collins = Marvin Williams

[Deleted member 365]

Why do we switch on everything? Teams run basic sets and we switch so easily that teams basically get the matchup they want every time. So while I think this comparison isn’t bad, I find some of the things we do defensively leading to losses no matter what is on the roster

 

[Agent#00]

View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10101197-nba-rumors-jazzs-john-collins-on-trade-block-following-offseason-deal-from-hawks

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10101197-nba-rumors-jazzs-john-collins-on-trade-block-following-offseason-deal-from-hawks

John Collins lives on the trade block. The flip went sideways I guess @infection

 

[Miggs]

John Collins is probably one of my most disliked Jazz players of the last 20 years. It's not because he's bad or awful. He just doesnt really inspire any kind of joy when I watch him. His game is boring. His game is unimpactful. His game is meh. It's not even in the same way I dislike a guy like Sexton, where I can actively see what he's doing wrong that's hurting the team. Collins just makes the team worse in ways that arent even visible.

Yet he still gets a ton of double doubles and always puts up a consistent stat line. The quote I often think about when I watch John Collins is "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound" because do his stats matter when he seemingly makes us worse on both ends?

Watching Collins is just like a flashback to watching Marvin Williams.

Would Al Jefferson be a better example then?

 

[fishonjazz]

Would Al Jefferson be a better example then?

I think Marvin Williams is more on point

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[MTS]

Would Al Jefferson be a better example then?

I don't think Al Jefferson made teams worse - with him it was more like running your offense through him gave your team a relatively low ceiling.

 

[homeytennis]

There are a lot of players playing in the GLeague or overseas with Mr. Collins skill set.

 

[YoungJefe]

DNP today coaches decision and now he's on the trade block...

 

[Flc]

Something definitely went down in the locker room. Not buying this “slow to pick up the system” leak but maybe @andylarsen can clarify.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

DNP today coaches decision and now he's on the trade block...

He’s sick

 

[jazzfan1971]

Give it a year.

 

[HermanG]

Something definitely went down in the locker room. Not buying this “slow to pick up the system” leak but maybe @andylarsen can clarify.

It actually makes sense. His BPM is not in line with his stats, but if he causes breakdowns on both ends by not being where he is supposed to be that explains the BPM and why it has been hard to catch in eyeball test.

They said they are happy with his scoring and rebounding, but apparently he isnt where he is supposed to be on the court most of the time. That kills a team that doesnt have a clear advantage in skilled individuals or if you look at the Clippers you could say that no amount of individual talent can overcome poor team play.