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Handlogten's Heros said:
I think its really pretty even.
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I could see that….just depends on how you feel about those two players. For me, I don’t really value Ochai that much. Like if he wasn’t a first round pick, he would just be an other guy. But his trade value is probably greater than what I view him as.
 
KqWIN said:
I could see that….just depends on how you feel about those two players. For me, I don’t really value Ochai that much. Like if he wasn’t a first round pick, he would just be an other guy. But his trade value is probably greater than what I view him as.
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I think JC for Fournier/Grimes is even... is what I meant. I would use Ochai in a separate deal as some sort of sweetener to get something done if possible or just keep him and hope he starts shooting straight and move him in the offseason. Like if you sent Ochai and John Collins to the Hornets for Hayward I'd try to do that this season but I'm not sure that is what the Hornets are shooting for.
 
KqWIN said:
Because we’re not giving up any of those things. You don’t get to bargain what JC did in the past. JC is 31 and while he’s been playing better, he’s still very inefficient on the year as a whole. Ochai makes some defensive plays, but he is no stud and is a terrible offensive player.

I’m not even a Grimes guy. But 23 years old on a rookie deal who can actually shoot and defend is a very valuable player.
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wrong. he is averaging 18.3 point this year and i read he is a candidate for 6th man this year. this isnt the past, this is the present. JC is a much better player than Grimes right now. in addition his contract makes him even more valuable. i hear grimes turned down something like 20 million a year and wants at least 25 million. just not interested in JC plus Ochai for Grimes.
 
oldtimer said:
wrong. he is averaging 18.3 point this year and i read he is a candidate for 6th man this year. this isnt the past, this is the present. JC is a much better player than Grimes right now. in addition his contract makes him even more valuable. i hear grimes turned down something like 20 million a year and wants at least 25 million. just not interested in JC plus Ochai for Grimes.
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fournier is a negative asset. dude hasnt played for 2 years.
 
I am just saying. If you get another Laker pick and remove the protection of the 2027 pick - having two unencumbered post-Lebron Laker picks would be worth gold. It may make it even appealing to entice a future Luka trade with Dallas.
 
KqWIN said:
I could see that….just depends on how you feel about those two players. For me, I don’t really value Ochai that much. Like if he wasn’t a first round pick, he would just be an other guy. But his trade value is probably greater than what I view him as.
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Also... there is a report from Ian Bagley and others that it would take a significant package to get JC so for now I think DA is asking for a pick and Grimes... but that's a guess.
 
oldtimer said:
wrong. he is averaging 18.3 point this year and i read he is a candidate for 6th man this year. this isnt the past, this is the present. JC is a much better player than Grimes right now. in addition his contract makes him even more valuable. i hear grimes turned down something like 20 million a year and wants at least 25 million. just not interested in JC plus Ochai for Grimes.
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I really don’t know how to tell you that JC is not averaging 20 ppg. Like you can’t just say he is 20 ppg and 6th man and then claim I’m wrong because you actually meant 18.3 and a candidate.

Either way, it’s an incredibly surface way to view things. JC has had a terrible year, so has Ochai. And again, I’m not a Grimes guy, he has also struggled. But once upon a time he was the sticking point in a Mitchell trade.

Also, what you hear is literally impossible he could not have even been offered a contract. Him being on a rookie deal with team control at 23 years old is a better contract.
 
whatthe said:
I am just saying. If you get another Laker pick and remove the protection of the 2027 pick - having two unencumbered post-Lebron Laker picks would be worth gold. It may make it even appealing to entice a future Luka trade with Dallas.
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you really believe we could get the laker rookie hood, get them to remove their lottery 2027 draft pick 1-4 protections and another 1st unprotected for Sexton? i love sexton, but thats not a real offer by the Lakers.
 
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