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Jazz trade Olynyk and Ochai to Toronto for Kira Lewis, Otto Porter, and a 2024 1st round pick

Saint Cy of JFC said:
lmao wut?

Simone took over because Simone is far and away the better player.

Ochai's defense was not why he wasnt getting minutes.

There's nothing to overthink with Ochai. He stopped hitting shots and then he lost confidence.
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Ochai could not defend big wings except mainly for the occasional chase down block. Hardy even commented at some point that he preferred Simone's size which is why he got the start.

I totally agree Simone is currently the better player so it's not worth arguing the point.
 
Beyond having Danny AKA Christian Barbrow shoot us in the foot for the second consecutive season in his quest to collect his thirty “precious” picks, he duped us into believing he was seriously shifting to buyer mode for a run this season. Unless a team was interested in gifting us a Dejounte Murray or likewise, no way Ainge was psychologically prepared to relinquish one of his “precious “ picks IMO!

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-8CSa9xj8&pp=ygULbXkgcHJlY2lvdXM%3D
 
Sad to see Kelly go.

Two comments:
1. I'm choosing to believe that this trade signals that Kelly was clear in his desire to sign elsewhere. The fact that he's gone to Toronto, specifically, gives an even clearer indication.
2. I think I can buy into the vision here. The rookies need some extra burn to finish out the year, and we now have better assets and flexibility to make **** happen this offseason.
 
So with our 1st round pick we get to keep it if it is in top 10 and must give to okc if outside top 10 and if so I would rather give it to them now as this draft is meant to be very weak
 
jom2003 said:
We definite sold low... Olynyk himself is enough to get us a late first. ****. We sold Simone for more than what we sold KO/Ochai for combined
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KO was on the market for months. there were media reports everywhere that indicated 4 to 8 teams really wanted him. do you really believe all those teams were offering 1st round picks? do you really believe danny was offerred a 1st round pick for KO and said let me throw in another player for free? danny is a lot of things but he does not give players away for free. this was the best offer for KO. no other team offered a first for KO alone. if they had Danny would have taken it and saved an asset.
 
oldtimer said:
KO was on the market for months. there were media reports everywhere that indicated 4 to 8 teams really wanted him. do you really believe all those teams were offering 1st round picks? do you really believe danny was offerred a 1st round pick for KO and said let me throw in another player for free? danny is a lot of things but he does not give players away for free. this was the best offer for KO. no other team offered a first for KO alone. if they had Danny would have taken it and saved an asset.
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It's the hair isn't it?
 
oldtimer said:
KO was on the market for months. there were media reports everywhere that indicated 4 to 8 teams really wanted him. do you really believe all those teams were offering 1st round picks? do you really believe danny was offerred a 1st round pick for KO and said let me throw in another player for free? danny is a lot of things but he does not give players away for free. this was the best offer for KO. no other team offered a first for KO alone. if they had Danny would have taken it and saved an asset.
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Sorry I have to disagree about DA, But he has given several Jazz players away for nothing .
 
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