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Jackpotting Around Podcast: Episode 7 - Who Is The Mystery Man?

Elizah Huge

Elizah Huge

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Episode 7 is live, @Handlogten's Heros and I discuss who the mystery man Tony Jones mentioned the Jazz almost traded for could be plus more! As always we greatly appreciate the support as well as any and all feedback! Let us know what you think. Is there someone we missed? Who do you think it is? Any player that stand out to you after listening?

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Also my rant on Team Convey… I don’t get it and it makes my brain hurt.
 
A bit more on the Hayward thing... there was a question if Hayward would be considered a "buy" move with his age and being an expiring contract, in addition to the question of being better than a starter. Pretend we traded for Hayward and everyone on Twitter is melting down and everyone is tagging Tony about this move because 1. the drama but also 2. he's too old, expiring, not good anymore, etc. What does Tony say? When all of Jazz twitter is down on a Jazz player or acquisition, Tony is more dispassionate. Does Tony say that's a buyers move? Yes. Is it a buyers move? Yes. I mean, despite age, he's still only 33. Pretend it's not Hayward and you go out and grab someone putting up 14.5 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal and only 2 turnovers. If you get a solid all-around player that you can plug in to any lineup, that's a buying move, especially at the time if there was question of pushing for play-offs/play-in.
 
infection said:
A bit more on the Hayward thing... there was a question if Hayward would be considered a "buy" move with his age and being an expiring contract, in addition to the question of being better than a starter. Pretend we traded for Hayward and everyone on Twitter is melting down and everyone is tagging Tony about this move because 1. the drama but also 2. he's too old, expiring, not good anymore, etc. What does Tony say? When all of Jazz twitter is down on a Jazz player or acquisition, Tony is more dispassionate. Does Tony say that's a buyers move? Yes. Is it a buyers move? Yes. I mean, despite age, he's still only 33. Pretend it's not Hayward and you go out and grab someone putting up 14.5 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal and only 2 turnovers. If you get a solid all-around player that you can plug in to any lineup, that's a buying move, especially at the time if there was question of pushing for play-offs/play-in.
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I don't disagree with what you are saying, but just wanted to mention Hayward has been really bad so far for OKC and looks completely out of place and cooked. He's just coming back from injury and adjusting to a new team, so maybe he starts looking better eventually.
 
infection said:
A bit more on the Hayward thing... there was a question if Hayward would be considered a "buy" move with his age and being an expiring contract, in addition to the question of being better than a starter. Pretend we traded for Hayward and everyone on Twitter is melting down and everyone is tagging Tony about this move because 1. the drama but also 2. he's too old, expiring, not good anymore, etc. What does Tony say? When all of Jazz twitter is down on a Jazz player or acquisition, Tony is more dispassionate. Does Tony say that's a buyers move? Yes. Is it a buyers move? Yes. I mean, despite age, he's still only 33. Pretend it's not Hayward and you go out and grab someone putting up 14.5 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal and only 2 turnovers. If you get a solid all-around player that you can plug in to any lineup, that's a buying move, especially at the time if there was question of pushing for play-offs/play-in.
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I left the guess who card up... I don't think it was him though as I don't think Tony would consider him better than a starter but less than a star at this point. That is subjective though. Of the top ten or so guys we ended up with... I think he is in the bottom half of the list.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I don't disagree with what you are saying, but just wanted to mention Hayward has been really bad so far for OKC and looks completely out of place and cooked. He's just coming back from injury and adjusting to a new team, so maybe he starts looking better eventually.
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I definitely don't think he is cooked. Coming back from injury and joining a new team takes time but if he is healthy then he will help them quite a bit.
 
sip said:
I definitely don't think he is cooked. Coming back from injury and joining a new team takes time but if he is healthy then he will help them quite a bit.
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I thought it was a good get at the time, and still has that potential. It's just really noticeable when you watch OKC, he sticks out as not fitting in right now.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I thought it was a good get at the time, and still has that potential. It's just really noticeable when you watch OKC, he sticks out as not fitting in right now.
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He looked slow at other parts of the season too but was still effective. In that team I’m sure he looks extra cooked. He will have a moment if he can stay healthy.
 
His injury was a soft tissue thingy in the lower leg and they usually take forever to heal. OKC might be viewing him as a playoff piece when he shakes off the rust.
 
Anyway, good Pod, you continue to feel more comfortable and natural. I can't believe Elizah Huge brought up both Marcus Smart and WCJ who are both on my non Jazz homer list.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Anyway, good Pod, you continue to feel more comfortable and natural. I can't believe Elizah Huge brought up both Marcus Smart and WCJ who are both on my non Jazz homer list.
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He desperately wants to recreate the Boylen Bulls.
 
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