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Best Playoff Outcomes for Jazz Trades

infection said:
There was a team somewhere in the west recently who blew it up with two future hall of famers with at least three years left on their deals. Wish I could remember who it was.
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The 2021-22 Jazz had a starting five that by the start of next season would have been 26, 29, 33, 30 and 35. If this is your definition of a blown-up young team then, well...
 
jazznik said:
The 2021-22 Jazz had a starting five that by the start of next season would have been 26, 29, 33, 30 and 35. If this is your definition of a blown-up young team then, well...
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Two future hall of famers with 3 years (and player option, not that that matters) left on their contracts, of which both would still be in their prime.
 
infection said:
Two future hall of famers with 3 years (and player option, not that that matters) left on their contracts, of which both would still be in their prime.
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Who didn't like playing together and wouldn't have much around them as we were capped out and already out one future first. Trading one guy puts you in the upper end of the play in... trading neither maybe the same... trading both was the right play if you want to build a long term contender. Staying together wasn't an option. If you think Sexton, Lauri, Rudy could have been amazing I kind of get that with hindsight... we gotta stop doing the we should have kept this thing together imo. It was over.

Now if we rush to get like an Ingram to pair with Lauri its kinda silly to see that we could have just kept one star, maneuvered that way, and been a better version of mid.
 
infection said:
Two future hall of famers with 3 years (and player option, not that that matters) left on their contracts, of which both would still be in their prime.
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Not so sure about the future Hall of Famers: basketballref gives Gobert a 26% chance and Mitchell - 13%. But the question was not about those two players: you CAN be a contender with them two as your biggest stars. The question was that the Jazz could not improve their supporting cast: they had no picks and could not get much for Bojan (33), Conley (35), Ingles (35), Royce (29). All those players and the 30-year-old Gobert could only decline.

The Cavs, on the other hand, could easily continue building around really young Mobley and Garland: both Allen and Mitchell can get them really good players in trades.
 
jazznik said:
Not so sure about the future Hall of Famers: basketballref gives Gobert a 26% chance and Mitchell - 13%. But the question was not about those two players: you CAN be a contender with them two as your biggest stars. The question was that the Jazz could not improve their supporting cast: they had no picks and could not get much for Bojan (33), Conley (35), Ingles (35), Royce (29). All those players and the 30-year-old Gobert could only decline.

The Cavs, on the other hand, could easily continue building around really young Mobley and Garland: both Allen and Mitchell can get them really good players in trades.
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Gobert will be a 4 time (at least) DPY he will get in. Don, I'm not so sure.

Also If the Cavs get run again in the first round, I'm not sure Don's valalue holds steady. Even if they win and get embarrassed in the second round, he will take the brunt of the blame.
 
Listened to The Ringer Draft Show today and KOC mentioned that Utah would be aggressive in trying to get better this off-season.
 
jazznik said:
They cannot. They cannot trade picks in the consecutive years and they already traded them for 2024 and 2027
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In the summer it opens up for the Lakers from 1 FRP to 3 FRP available for trades. I believe 2025, 2029 and 2031 become available. Crazy. They probably want Donovan though. But dang all of those picks could be good.
 
whatthe said:
This summer if the Lakers offer 3 FRP and removal of protection for Lauri and Sexton. Do you take it?
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Damn. That's tough. Idk

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whatthe said:
In the summer it opens up for the Lakers from 1 FRP to 3 FRP available for trades. I believe 2025, 2029 and 2031 become available. Crazy. They probably want Donovan though. But dang all of those picks could be good.
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This is somewhat correct. 2025 will be the pick that goes to NO. On draft night they can trade 24 (they make the pick then trade the player), 29 and 31. To do the deal you outlined I need swaps in the even years and Reaves. If they want just Lauri I'd consider it for 24, protections off of 27, 29, 31 and swaps in the even years. If they get Lauri we get all the first round capital unencumbered or they can kick rocks.
 
The Jazz have a ton of incentive to trade Lauri. The following years draft will be stacked and we’d have loads and loads of assets. I hate seeing the jazz tank another year and I love Lauri…but if it’s just one more it’s worth it.
 
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