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Does anyone think Cody can play defense? Not great on paper....reviews seem to be mixed on film + physical attributes.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
What do you like that Williams gives you over the other availables?
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He has NBA size and athleticism and looks like he will be a good defender and has some touch which gives me hope for his offense. He's got a long ways to go, but I can see it coming together with him more than Holland or Buzelis for example.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm mostly going off length and athleticism, but I could be way off.
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Everyone seems to agree that he's kind of switchy....but I'm curious to see if there's more to that. I feel as though people forget that there's way more to defense than on ball defense and it's easy to get tunnel vision on that one aspect. The extremely low rebounds + low stocks gives me concern and I see that as a poor reflection of his functional athleticism. NBA athletes are typically able to put up that production in college by default. He's at the intersection of two really bad indicators. There are almost no good NBA perimeter defenders with that low of stocks and almost no NBA players in general of his size that rebounded so poorly. So if he does end up a good NBA defender, he's an outlier in more than one way.
 
KqWIN said:
Everyone seems to agree that he's kind of switchy....but I'm curious to see if there's more to that. I feel as though people forget that there's way more to defense than on ball defense and it's easy to get tunnel vision on that one aspect. The extremely low rebounds + low stocks gives me concern and I see that as a poor reflection of his functional athleticism. NBA athletes are typically able to put up that production in college by default. He's at the intersection of two really bad indicators. There are almost no good NBA perimeter defenders with that low of stocks and almost no NBA players in general of his size that rebounded so poorly. So if he does end up a good NBA defender, he's an outlier in more than one way.
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I think those numbers are red flags, but in this draft almost every prospect has them, so it's more of a question on which red flags you are willing to ignore.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I think those numbers are red flags, but in this draft almost every prospect has them, so it's more of a question on which red flags you are willing to ignore.
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It also brings up the question of.....does it mean more that a guy is visibly long and athletic or that he does the thing that athleticism is supposed to accomplish? Personally, I've always leaned more on the guys who are good at doing the things over guys that look the part.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
It feels like this ranking didn't get enough discussion. I know evaluations will change with workouts and the combine, but there a couple surprises. First is Cody Williams not being in the top 10. Second is Buzelis being so high. Also Dillingham and Sheppard being in the lower tier.
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Biggest reason I didn’t talk about it at all is because it simply doesn’t mean much at all.
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This is straight from ESPN. Who’s the panel of experts?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
It's very interesting to get an early sneak peak on how teams view the draft vs how we talk about the draft on here. Lots of people on here making statements on here like so and so will definitely not be available at 8 when the team rankings have them much lower.
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They aren’t team rankings lol. Teams sent in a top-10 composite ranking of prospects but how much is it weighted vs the other stuff like publicly available rankings and the panel of experts?
 
Also, what incentive do teams have of giving their exact correct rankings of players now?
 
KqWIN said:
It also brings up the question of.....does it mean more that a guy is visibly long and athletic or that he does the thing that athleticism is supposed to accomplish? Personally, I've always leaned more on the guys who are good at doing the things over guys that look the part.
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I get what you are saying, but sometimes the sample size and role and injuries can effect the numbers.
 
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