Big poll about the Jazz strategies

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Full tank mode next year makes zero sense. IF you had any interest in full tank mode the time to do was two years ago. It is go time. Ainge might be blowing smoke about big game hunting but there is no way that the current FO does not realize that people are getting restless with no plan in place and a FO that has pretty much isolated itself from the fan base. There is a lot of building to be done but next year needs to be several steps up with some degree of giving fans hope in the future.

Go time for what? Lmao

 

[KqWIN]

For me, the decision to trade Lauri is more about the trade package and less about overall direction. Feels like we’re going to suck unless we go acquire 1-2 almost guys. Even then, I don’t think we’re guaranteed to make the playoffs.

With the lottery odds as flat as they are, I don’t think it’s a must that we trade Lauri. Bottoming out doesn’t have the same significant benefit over simply being bad.

I’d definitely want some kind of premium asset though. First round picks from teams almost guaranteed to make the playoffs isn’t what I’m looking for, we have enough of that. HOU is really compelling. I would love to have Amen Thompson, but they probably want to keep him. But #3 could also be considered a premium asset and I think Jalen Green would be a good second draft guy to go after.

 

[Miggs]

You just can’t truly go full tank without trading Lauri imo and I can’t imagine we get what he’s worth but rather about 65 cents on the dollar. So I don’t know where we (should) go from here. It’s a hell of a predicament in a brutal West.

 

[Rubashov]

Have a look at that saucy tank, doesn't it get you engorged?

 

[The Midnight]

Full tank mode next year makes zero sense. IF you had any interest in full tank mode the time to do was two years ago. It is go time. Ainge might be blowing smoke about big game hunting but there is no way that the current FO does not realize that people are getting restless with no plan in place and a FO that has pretty much isolated itself from the fan base. There is a lot of building to be done but next year needs to be several steps up with some degree of giving fans hope in the future.

I was thinking this too "the time for full tank was 2 years ago". I felt like we wasted 2 years doing half hearted tanks.

But - had we gone full tank 2 years ago who were really franchise changing (except Wimby)? I don't see it.

Also this year's draft hasn't shown me anyone who could potentially turn into a top 10 or even top 20 some day.

So maybe the time to tank is really from this year onwards rather than the past 2 years.

The point is to really commit to it and no more half hearted tanks from now on.

 

[The Midnight]

I'm not sure how well the 28 voters represent the general consensus here, but if they do then MAN is there gonna be a lot of sour grapes around here at the end of the offseason. They are not gonna go full tank.

Now dont get me wrong they have been stripping parts away for the past 2,5 years so it makes much more sense to tank and I agree with the majority that they probably should do it, but I think the actions of the FO thus far have indicated that their MO is to "remain in position and keep their options open". They do think they already have enough draft capital to make big trades, and havent yet been given an opportunity to make a real big swing.

To go full tank at this point would be a committal change of direction, and I would expect them to at least hint about it in the exit interviews. Instead, they seemed to double down on their current strategy. I'm not sure they have given any other hints that they are even considering that except Zaniks trade DL interviews where he talked about long term perspective. But seeing their exit interviews it feels like those JZ talks were more about justifying the midseason tank than preparing the fanbase for a deep tank.

At some point if we can't trade for a super star to catapult our franchise into a championship calibre team, we've got to change direction.

The OKC model is really what we should be following given similarity in market size and attraction for FAs.

 

[Nate505]

**** tanking. I'm sure Detroit is thrilled with that approach right now

 

[Ron Mexico]

At some point if we can't trade for a super star to catapult our franchise into a championship calibre team, we've got to change direction.

The OKC model is really what we should be following given similarity in market size and attraction for FAs.

I really dont get this following the OKC path. They tanked and picked up great players, but the real difference maker is their MVP level player in SGA that they traded for and got lucky. Without that level player you are following a very different path.

 

[Ron Mexico]

So do all the people who want to trade Sexton want to trade him to tank harder? Cash out after playing well? Or dont believe in him? I am surprised that many people want to trade him.

 

[The Midnight]

I really dont get this following the OKC path. They tanked and picked up great players, but the real difference maker is their MVP level player in SGA that they traded for and got lucky. Without that level player you are following a very different path.

Well is there a young SGA that could be gotten through a trade at the moment?

If there is one, then trading Markanen to get him would also be a great option as the young budding star would be a better for fit our timeline.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Well is there a young SGA that could be gotten through a trade at the moment?

If there is one, then trading Markanen to get him would also be a great option as the young budding star would be a better for fit our timeline.

No.


I am pretty firmly against trading Lauri. We wont get back enough to be worth it and it puts us in tanking and being at the bottom of the league for at least 4 more years.

You are not going to find a trade like SGA. OKC got extremely lucky picking up a decent looking rookie who just put up 10 ppg. No one on either side thought he would turn into what he is now. If for some reason there was a young guy attainable that the Jazz thought had that kind of potential I guess we could go for it. You might as well hope Keyonte turns into that level player than a trade like that happening for us.

Maybe Kings trade Keegan Murray. I havent really watched him but people seem pretty high on him. But Kings fans seem like they wouldnt even trade him straight up for Lauri and his upside doesnt seem anywhere near super star to me. Or even way less likely OKC gets desperate and trades Jalen Green for Lauri and Kessler or something. But I seriously doubt OKC does that and I dont see him being super star level. Maybe he hits the level Lauri is. Maybe Amen from Houston. I think we could get him but his shot seems broken and that likely prevents him from being great.

 

[fishonjazz]

I was thinking this too "the time for full tank was 2 years ago". I felt like we wasted 2 years doing half hearted tanks.

But - had we gone full tank 2 years ago who were really franchise changing (except Wimby)? I don't see it.

Also this year's draft hasn't shown me anyone who could potentially turn into a top 10 or even top 20 some day.

So maybe the time to tank is really from this year onwards rather than the past 2 years.

The point is to really commit to it and no more half hearted tanks from now on.

Might be right and if you are then we probably need to trade Lauri

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