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Tanking is the kind of plan that ownership needs to co-sign or it wont happen.

Ryan Smith doesnt strike me as a guy who would do that if there were other options. Feels more like a can-do optimist who values the quality of the product too much.
Yeah and maybe this is where some of the back and forth between tanking and trying to be more competitive comes from. Ryan gets hopeful and by midseason the writing is on the wall. I think DA has as much power as just about any GM in the league so I think if he wanted to convince Ryan he could.
 
I only hate tank talk because we know it's not happening. And since we're not tanking, every single discussion turns into "I'd rather tank instead". OK cool, we get it. Be real bad, draft real good player, be good team....yada yada yada. It's an irrelevant topic because it won't happen. I wish there could be one thread for all complaining about "we should tank" instead of every single thread devolving into this.
Oh it will happen... it has happened 2 years in a row now. It just doens't happen in July... it happens in February.
 
I only hate tank talk because we know it's not happening. And since we're not tanking, every single discussion turns into "I'd rather tank instead". OK cool, we get it. Be real bad, draft real good player, be good team....yada yada yada. It's an irrelevant topic because it won't happen. I wish there could be one thread for all complaining about "we should tank" instead of every single thread devolving into this.
We tanked
 
Oh it will happen... it has happened 2 years in a row now. It just doens't happen in July... it happens in February.

Yall know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the tanking everyone is complaining that we did not do. The land of milk and honey where we "tank properly" ain't happening. I don't even care to discuss the merits of it anymore because it will not happen this summer.
 
IMO the most likely trade for Ingram would be to CLE, centered around Allen for Ingram. I think the Jazz version of the trade would be something like Sexton+Kessler for Ingram.
 
IMO the most likely trade for Ingram would be to CLE, centered around Allen for Ingram. I think the Jazz version of the trade would be something like Sexton+Kessler for Ingram.
Please no for the jazz

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IMO the most likely trade for Ingram would be to CLE, centered around Allen for Ingram. I think the Jazz version of the trade would be something like Sexton+Kessler for Ingram.
I actually think it will be around Garland. Just reading the tea leaves a bit.
 
I think Philly and Atlanta are also potentially the winners of the Ingram sweepstakes. Likely need a three team deal with philly where you re-route assets for players. I had a three teamer where we send Sexton/Kessler to NO, Ingram goes to Philly, and we get picks and some space out of the deal.
 
I actually think it will be around Garland. Just reading the tea leaves a bit.

Givony and Lowe were talking about this and it didn't seem like CLE wants to move him, although Klutch may want to relocate him. With Atkinson coming in I doubt they want to want to play with two bigs but Allen was also his guy in BKN.

I initially thought Garland as well, but there's a lot of chatter about Allen being traded.
 
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