Game Thread Nov 19, 2024 08:30PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Los Angeles Lakers

[Tanktastic]

Other players, except Collier, treat him like he's an intern. Lauri won't pass him the ball.

While Markkanen and Cody were on the court Lauri had maybe a single touch where he could've passed the ball the Cody. On every single touch that Markkanen had when he was on the court with Cody, he either scored immediately or got fouled once while shooting. The player that had the most touches and touches on almost every possession while Cody was on, was in fact Collier.

But the point about no-one passing him the ball is correct. Although, he rarely is in a position where anyone should pass him the ball.

 

[HermanG]

Hardy throwing anonymous guys under the bus. Sexton cheated off Knecht towards help defense on one of the possessions during the hot stretch, but this is mainly on Cody and JC.


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[SoberasHotRod]

This board is so dramatic and impatient. It was just one game ago that Cody did some nice things to get excited about. Dalton Knecht was a 5th year senior and took 10 games to start to settle in to the NBA. Over his first 10 games he averaged 6.1pts on 38/28 shooting splits. I'm sure you could go to Laker boards and see meltdowns, which would look funny now just a couple of games later.

Cody has unquestionably been bad and does not belong in the league right now. It's also still November in to his rookie season. Hopefully we get a few more flashes towards the end of the year. This board will be unreadable if we continue to meltdown with every poor performance of his.

 

[HermanG]

This board is so dramatic and impatient. It was just one game ago that Cody did some nice things to get excited about. Dalton Knecht was a 5th year senior and took 10 games to start to settle in to the NBA. Over his first 10 games he averaged 6.1pts on 38/28 shooting splits. I'm sure you could go to Laker boards and see meltdowns, which would look funny now.

Cody has unquestionably been bad and does not belong in the league right now. It's also still November in to his rookie season. Hopefully we get a few more flashes towards the end of the year. This board will be unreadable if we continue to meltdown with every poor performance of his.

I think meltdowns are connected to losing/tanking (a.k.a being bad) more than anything. Lauri 238M deal meltdowns are also on the way I presume (seen some glimpses already).

We will have some nice conversations along the way but venting and frustration is inevitable when your favourite team keeps losing.

Just gear up your canoe and prepare to ride the river of salty tears for this year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This board is so dramatic and impatient. It was just one game ago that Cody did some nice things to get excited about. Dalton Knecht was a 5th year senior and took 10 games to start to settle in to the NBA. Over his first 10 games he averaged 6.1pts on 38/28 shooting splits. I'm sure you could go to Laker boards and see meltdowns, which would look funny now.

Cody has unquestionably been bad and does not belong in the league right now. It's also still November in to his rookie season. Hopefully we get a few more flashes towards the end of the year. This board will be unreadable if we continue to meltdown with every poor performance of his.

LA with Lebron and AD is also a place I can see guys being star struck. Like Flip didn't quite look like himself at times last night either. Collier was a bit frantic at times. Juzang also pressing to have a good homecoming game.

Its just in our faces cuz Dalton went bonkers. He is in a perfect situation for his skillset. He is also 23 or whatever. We have been lucky to see some meteoric rises from rookies like Donovan and even with Rudy you could tell he was a problem. Many success stories look more like Gordon Hayward's. You'd think folks would be a little more patient considering the poor play helps us with the tank anyway.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I think meltdowns are connected to losing/tanking (a.k.a being bad) more than anything. Lauri 238M deal meltdowns are also on the way I presume (seen some glimpses already).

We will have some nice conversations along the way but venting and frustration is inevitable when your favourite team keeps losing.

Just gear up your canoe and prepare to ride the river of salty tears for this year.

True and good points. FWIW I appreciate your level headedness on this board.

It was just a little overwhelming trying to catch up on the conversation this morning and seeing so many negative posts about Cody. To be fair I didn't watch the game last night so I'm a little insulated from that performance.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

We have been lucky to see some meteoric rises from rookies like Donovan and even with Rudy you could tell he was a problem. Many success stories look more like Gordon Hayward's. You'd think folks would be a little more patient considering the poor play helps us with the tank anyway.

Compared to Cody, Hayward looked like a future star from day one and had an actual motor. I see no similarities between them.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

it's not that williams bad or struggling, etc - well it is sorta those things - but the main issue is that he's not doing anything. he doesn't even try. collier, and keyonte early in the season, are examples of guys who just stink sometimes, struggling with their shot, turnovers, etc - but at least they are going out and playing basketball. there is a level of aggression when they are on the floor.

cody williams just goes out there and stands around. gets the ball takes a dribble or two and swings it to the nearest teammate. all i'm asking is for him to do something. it's too reminiscent of Dante Exum (and what i saw that caused me to hate him as a draft prospect in feb and march at colorado) and it's giving me ptsd.

 

[HermanG]

it's not that williams bad or struggling, etc - well it is sorta those things - but the main issue is that he's not doing anything. he doesn't even try. collier, and keyonte early in the season, are examples of guys who just stink sometimes, struggling with their shot, turnovers, etc - but at least they are going out and playing basketball. there is a level of aggression when they are on the floor.

cody williams just goes out there and stands around. gets the ball takes a dribble or two and swings it to the nearest teammate. all i'm asking is for him to do something. it's too reminiscent of Dante Exum (and what i saw that caused me to hate him as a draft prospect in feb and march at colorado) and it's giving me ptsd.

Hendricks was so lost at the start of last year and didnt do anything either. This year he came in being much more assertive.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Compared to Cody, Hayward looked like a future star from day one and had an actual motor. I see no similarities between them.

Let's be honest tho... you'd have thought he sucked too... cuz everyone sucks lol.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

it's not that williams bad or struggling, etc - well it is sorta those things - but the main issue is that he's not doing anything. he doesn't even try. collier, and keyonte early in the season, are examples of guys who just stink sometimes, struggling with their shot, turnovers, etc - but at least they are going out and playing basketball. there is a level of aggression when they are on the floor.

cody williams just goes out there and stands around. gets the ball takes a dribble or two and swings it to the nearest teammate. all i'm asking is for him to do something. it's too reminiscent of Dante Exum (and what i saw that caused me to hate him as a draft prospect in feb and march at colorado) and it's giving me ptsd.

At one point last night he got the ball on the wing and swung it to a covered Eubanks like 15 feet from the basket on the baseline with AD (I believe, maybe Koloko) on him. Dude just does not want the ball.

I do think Eubanks scored on that possession with a running hook, but still kind of funny/sad.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

it's not that williams bad or struggling, etc - well it is sorta those things - but the main issue is that he's not doing anything. he doesn't even try. collier, and keyonte early in the season, are examples of guys who just stink sometimes, struggling with their shot, turnovers, etc - but at least they are going out and playing basketball. there is a level of aggression when they are on the floor.

cody williams just goes out there and stands around. gets the ball takes a dribble or two and swings it to the nearest teammate. all i'm asking is for him to do something. it's too reminiscent of Dante Exum (and what i saw that caused me to hate him as a draft prospect in feb and march at colorado) and it's giving me ptsd.

I also think he got some lasting PTSD from the Suns game where he kept getting stripped anytime to drive

A good deal of it seems mental. It looks like he's playing with his hands covered in butter and just got done lifting weights.