2024-2025 Tank Race

[KqWIN]

TOR and NOP are as bad as us atm, but they should have guys coming back in theory and I don't think it's likely they trade away talent. Maybe NOP trades Ingram, but they'd also likely be returning talent in that trade.

CHO/DET are slightly better than us, but I think they should improve more as the season goes on. DET won't trade the vets they just acquired, and they'll also be getting Ausar back. CHO could go either way, but I don't think they will sit their young players and they should have Williams/Richards back at some point. Don't think they'll trade vets either.

BKN/POR are also better than us, but I think they will try to actively get worse. It will be hard to move vets, but Shroeder/DFS/Johnson/Claxton have to be near the top of contenders' lists. POR also has a lot of players, but they are more difficult to trade.

CHI/SAS might sneak in there, but I think we're safe.

If I were to power rank the tankers in tiers going forward, I'd do it like this:

WAS

TOR
UTA
BKN

POR
CHO
CHI
NOP
DET
SAS

 

[fishonjazz]

TOR and NOP are as bad as us atm, but they should have guys coming back in theory and I don't think it's likely they trade away talent. Maybe NOP trades Ingram, but they'd also likely be returning talent in that trade.

CHO/DET are slightly better than us, but I think they should improve more as the season goes on. DET won't trade the vets they just acquired, and they'll also be getting Ausar back. CHO could go either way, but I don't think they will sit their young players and they should have Williams/Richards back at some point. Don't think they'll trade vets either.

BKN/POR are also better than us, but I think they will try to actively get worse. It will be hard to move vets, but Shroeder/DFS/Johnson/Claxton have to be near the top of contenders' lists. POR also has a lot of players, but they are more difficult to trade.

CHI/SAS might sneak in there, but I think we're safe.

If I were to power rank the tankers in tiers going forward, I'd do it like this:

WAS

TOR
UTA
BKN

POR
CHO
CHI
NOP
DET
SAS

Why is it CHO and not CHA?

 

[SoberasHotRod]

UTA loses by 6
SAS wins by 6
BKN wins/CHA loses by 1

Does anybody have an injury status for NOP?

 

[fishonjazz]

UTA loses by 6
SAS wins by 6
BKN wins/CHA loses by 1

Does anybody have an injury status for NOP?

I think I prefer that Brooklyn won that game as I think Charlotte is slightly better. Though I have no idea about either teams draft picks and whether they have more incentive to lose than the other.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think I prefer that Brooklyn won that game as I think Charlotte is slightly better. Though I have no idea about either teams draft picks and whether they have more incentive to lose than the other.

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Fully healthy Charlotte is probably better, but they are never fully healthy.

 

[Udidthizz]

Why is it CHO and not CHA?

Was wondering the same thing. Apparently it's the abbreviation Basketball-Reference uses to distinguish the current Hornets from the old Hornets that moved away (CHH) and the Bobcats (CHA).

 

[fishonjazz]

Was wondering the same thing. Apparently it's the abbreviation Basketball-Reference uses to distinguish the current Hornets from the old Hornets that moved away (CHH) and the Bobcats (CHA).

Interesting

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[NUMBERICA]

I can’t think of a worse outcome for the Jazz this year than drafting later than pick 5 after they cut their legs off two years in a row for Hendricks (pick 9) and Cody Williams (pick 10).

 

[hgb]

UTA loses by 6
SAS wins by 6
BKN wins/CHA loses by 1

Does anybody have an injury status for NOP?

Murphy is somewhat back, but rusty and doesn't play back-to-back, Ingram also out vs Cavs tonight. Alvarado, CJ McCollum, Zion, Herb Jones, Jordan Hawkins, Dejounte Murray still out. Seems like Ingram is a short-term thing, but the injury report is not great reading for a Pelicans fan (or from a tank point-of-view).

Apparently their projected starting lineup vs Cavs will have a combined salary of $8M.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Murphy is somewhat back, but rusty and doesn't play back-to-back, Ingram also out vs Cavs tonight. Alvarado, CJ McCollum, Zion, Herb Jones, Jordan Hawkins, Dejounte Murray still out. Seems like Ingram is a short-term thing, but the injury report is not great reading for a Pelicans fan (or from a tank point-of-view).

Apparently their projected starting lineup vs Cavs will have a combined salary of $8M.

Listen... I been telling folks... these guys are a tank contender. They will wrap it up soon if they can't get half those guys back within the next 2-3 weeks.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I can’t think of a worse outcome for the Jazz this year than drafting later than pick 5 after they cut their legs off two years in a row for Hendricks (pick 9) and Cody Williams (pick 10).

My lottery night anxiety is likely going to break me.

 

[hgb]

Listen... I been telling folks... these guys are a tank contender. They will wrap it up soon if they can't get half those guys back within the next 2-3 weeks.

They could be, but those guys don't want to sit if they get healthy. How to keep losing then?