2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

[KqWIN]

And I get that BUT Walker would be the only rookie scale guy I can think of that would be available and if they wanted to recycle him later they could. He's under full team control. I think it would have to be a Walker and Sexton for like Rui/Vando/Vincent combo to get there but that's what I'd ask. Giving up one of those picks for like Jimmy or some other guy who is winding down you have no opportunity to recycle him later.

I agree in that I don't think they offer it. But they should offer it for this or another deal that could do something similar. AD's prime ends in like 2 years? You have Lebron and AD right now so your window to do something big (conference finals) is now. It just doesn't make much sense for them or the Warriors to kind of run out the clock on those guys. Denver is vulnerable... OKC is a little unproven and may not have the big depth if Chet isn't healthy. Dallas/Minny all look to have taken a step back. There is an opportunity and the Lakers should be able to do something. Maybe they only recover 50% of what they gave when time comes to rebuild... but they would have gotten a lot of value along the way.

The other thing is... based on tone I don't know if we even do that as it seems we are just not interested in selling off Walker. I am good either way honestly. Lakers nibbling with some seconds and other stuff is just kinda weird to me.

All of this just leads me to saying that it won't happen. If that's your asking price...ok then the result is that it won't happen and that's fine. I feel like some try to speak things into existence but it doesn't really work that way.

Something in between, like Knecht+one unprotected is in between seems to be where the line of scrimmage is at....but we don't really know if it's LAL or UTA who is hesitant. Knecht+one unprotected easily clears/satisfies what the previous "high" asking prices were reported to be whether that be "two first round picks" or a "young prospect plus pick".

I don't really value Knecht that much, so I'm personally keeping Walker if that offer is on the table. I think there's a decent chance the Jazz accept that offer if it was presented to them, however. We know Ainge is rigid and asks for a lot, but the last time he accepted a deal with the Lakers it was less than half of what people around here were hoping for.

 

[bigmike]

I struggle to see anything the Lakers would realistically offer that would get us to bite on trading Kessler. He fits us so well, both now and in the future in a truly competitive core.

If they want to give us every single potentially valuable pick they have? Great! Just don't see it happening.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Talking to teams this week, a theme emerged that the Jimmy Butler situation is holding up the trade market some.

One assistant GM told me that his team has a deal basically done, but the other team could be in a four- or five-team Butler trade. So, they have to hold for now. That's slowed things.

 

[KqWIN]

Forget about Brice, Cody is better than Knecht at everything besides shooting!

 

[jazznik]

Is Knecht a better prospect than Sensabaugh?

Obviously very different team contexts, and Brice is 2.5 years younger, but:

That's a very big "and".

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is Knecht a better prospect than Sensabaugh?

Obviously very different team contexts, and Brice is 2.5 years younger, but:

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I know Knecht defense has been an issue as expected, but I still believe he has a better path to being a good defender given his athleticism, so I would probably give the edge to Knecht.

I would say overall Brice has more talent but he does seem like he will be more of a ball stopper vs Knecht who will be more of a motion shooter/quick decision maker.

 

[idiot]

I know Knecht defense has been an issue as expected, but I still believe he has a better path to being a good defender given his athleticism, so I would probably give the edge to Knecht.

I would say overall Brice has more talent but he does seem like he will be more of a ball stopper vs Knecht who will be more of a motion shooter/quick decision maker.

Yeah, the turnovers/lack of ease in really fitting in a system aren't doing Brice any favors now (though he's seemed to have made a lot of progress even during the season), but I think the comparison is a lot closer than many would think.

 

[NUMBERICA]

They are a destination BUT they wandered in the wilderness for a long time before Lebron blessed them and FA is different now with the extensions. Almost have to trade for the star and if they don't have stuff to trade...

I would bet those picks would be pretty decent or looked at as having good value in a trade down the line. It is a lot to give up.

Also, players have been much more keen to take the money from incumbent teams on extensions (because they get more and lock in security), such that 2019 is the last year that max players jumped ship from their incumbent team in free agency. If LA kinda doesn’t have that anymore and they’re relying on building through trade (bearing in mind this is how they got AD), I’m not sure how great LA as a lure really is if they don’t have the requisite market capital (picks) to make those moves.

But that’s exactly why getting Kessler and Sexton makes some sense for them. They’re good enough to be trade pieces on their own and could extend their window, or at least prevent them from completely bottoming out (though that is in question, which is why it makes sense for the Jazz).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Talking to teams this week, a theme emerged that the Jimmy Butler situation is holding up the trade market some.

One assistant GM told me that his team has a deal basically done, but the other team could be in a four- or five-team Butler trade. So, they have to hold for now. That's slowed things.

Cy Charania!

Yeah I would guess a lot of the deals that are likely to get done are 75-80% there just everyone has to see how the board sets up. Jimmy deal is so complex it will have to have 4 teams at least... maybe 5 if Beal is in the deal too. Normally 90%+ of the trades are done in the last 48 hours. It just seemed like Phoenix might only do the Jazz deal if they already had the other stuff locked down.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

All of this just leads me to saying that it won't happen. If that's your asking price...ok then the result is that it won't happen and that's fine. I feel like some try to speak things into existence but it doesn't really work that way.

Something in between, like Knecht+one unprotected is in between seems to be where the line of scrimmage is at....but we don't really know if it's LAL or UTA who is hesitant. Knecht+one unprotected easily clears/satisfies what the previous "high" asking prices were reported to be whether that be "two first round picks" or a "young prospect plus pick".

I don't really value Knecht that much, so I'm personally keeping Walker if that offer is on the table. I think there's a decent chance the Jazz accept that offer if it was presented to them, however. We know Ainge is rigid and asks for a lot, but the last time he accepted a deal with the Lakers it was less than half of what people around here were hoping for.

1 unprotected pick and Knecht is an easy pass for me if that's what you think is high. That deal might hurt the other pick we own enough to pass (something no other team would really have to consider).

The really consistent messaging has been that Walker isn't available and I believe it for the most part. But then again Ochai was once untouchable.

 

[underdog]

Cy Charania!

Yeah I would guess a lot of the deals that are likely to get done are 75-80% there just everyone has to see how the board sets up. Jimmy deal is so complex it will have to have 4 teams at least... maybe 5 if Beal is in the deal too. Normally 90%+ of the trades are done in the last 48 hours. It just seemed like Phoenix might only do the Jazz deal if they already had the other stuff locked down.

Yeah, you would think they want to get this thing done as soon as possible.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, will be interesting to see where he ends up. You would think they want to get this thing done as soon as possible.

Riley lost his fastball tbh. I would have just taken Beal and the 2031 Suns pick for the Heat and moved on. He thinks he will get a FA in a couple years and FA has changed. Wanting Middleton/Portis and a worse pick over just taking Beal and getting a good pick is weird to me. I understand there is some duplication with Beal and Herro but if they don't make the playoffs this year they will give up unprotected picks in 2026 and 2028 as a result. So they just need to get focused.

The Rozier trade was tragic.