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Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

I would say they both struggled in their rookie seasons. What is weird is thst Dante got more games and minutes than Cody even though we were intentionally tanking in 2025 and we weren't in 2015.

Identical per 36 ppg. 3/10ths of a percentage point better fg%. More assists and turnovers but fewer rebounds.

At the end of the day, Dante could have been better but he suffered a bunch of injuries. If Cody Williams has a similar path but doesn't get injured... who knows.
Can Hardy/staff develop him? I think so. Will he get there? Odds are against him right now.
 
Raw numbers are fairly similar, but advanced numbers show a huge edge to Exum....but it's somewhat of an apples to oranges comparison given the different situations. Still, it's worth mentioning that Cody was the tank commander on a terrible team while Exum was a +/- god on a decent team.

I think there are a lot of differences between the two, but if Cody becomes an NBA player, it will be similar to Exum's path to becoming an NBA player. He found a way to become a role player by greatly improving his shot and becoming a versatile role player on both ends. Cody will have to do the same. Enough to get by on offense, then some versatility on the defensive end.
 
KqWIN said:
Raw numbers are fairly similar, but advanced numbers show a huge edge to Exum....but it's somewhat of an apples to oranges comparison given the different situations. Still, it's worth mentioning that Cody was the tank commander on a terrible team while Exum was a +/- god on a decent team.

I think there are a lot of differences between the two, but if Cody becomes an NBA player, it will be similar to Exum's path to becoming an NBA player. He found a way to become a role player by greatly improving his shot and becoming a versatile role player on both ends. Cody will have to do the same. Enough to get by on offense, then some versatility on the defensive end.
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As bad as Cody was, I still don't think it's unrealistic for him to become a positive NBA player at some point in his career. He had quite a few nice moments defensively this year and I really think just adding strength and natural maturity is all he needs to do to be a positive on that end.

On offense I'm choosing to believe that the Jazz prioritized future progress vs giving him the best chance to succeed this year. There were reports of him doing weight lifting on game days and I know they were retooling his shot during the season. Both of these things were probably the right thing to do, but also can explain some of the really poor shooting performances.
 
I'm going through some of Cody's stats on NBA.com and it's almost impossible to find anything super impressive. However, there is a 16 game stretch after the all star break where he was averaging 6.2pts/2.8reb (11/5 per 36) on 42/41/94 shooting splits. The average +/- during that time was only -1.5 which isn't bad considering our average margin as a team was -8.5 over that span.

Maybe the least impressive cherry picking ever, but it does kind of make sense that he mentally/physically looked much better after the break.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm going through some of Cody's stats on NBA.com and it's almost impossible to find anything super impressive. However, there is a 16 game stretch after the all star break where he was averaging 6.2pts/2.8reb (11/5 per 36) on 42/41/94 shooting splits. The average +/- during that time was only -1.5 which isn't bad considering our average margin as a team was -8.5 over that span.

Maybe the least impressive cherry picking ever, but it does kind of make sense that he mentally/physically looked much better after the break.
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I know it wasn't the intention but this post made me laugh
 
fishonjazz said:
I know it wasn't the intention but this post made me laugh
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It wasn't not supposed to make you laugh, lol.

The only thing kind of serious about those numbers is that he did have several stretches this year where he looked pretty good from 3. Maybe there is enough there for a super homer (which we all should be as Jazz fans) to have a glimmer of hope that he can be a decent three point shooter at some point.

A glimmer of hope he can shoot the 3 and a pretty good chance (in my opinion) he becomes a better than average defender, and we're starting to get the picture of a 3&D wing. It's not nothing (just almost nothing).
 
SoberasHotRod said:
As bad as Cody was, I still don't think it's unrealistic for him to become a positive NBA player at some point in his career. He had quite a few nice moments defensively this year and I really think just adding strength and natural maturity is all he needs to do to be a positive on that end.

On offense I'm choosing to believe that the Jazz prioritized future progress vs giving him the best chance to succeed this year. There were reports of him doing weight lifting on game days and I know they were retooling his shot during the season. Both of these things were probably the right thing to do, but also can explain some of the really poor shooting performances.
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Unrealistic, probably not. But I’d also say it’s pretty unlikely. Physically he’s very far behind, his skill level is very low, and he has a very low motor. I don’t think any of those things are set in stone and he can improve, but he needs massive improvements in all of those areas just to be at an NBA rotation level. I’d probably agree that the defense is closer/more realistic than the offense, but not by that much.
 
Hedda Gambler said:
If he doesn`t improve, do we even pick up his 4th year option next year?
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I think the Jazz will give him until year 3 to prove himself. I think they’ll pick up his option, but whether they extend him is another question.

David Locke just did a podcast talking about how Brice and Johnny Juzang were sub-30% from 3pts as rookies. If the Jazz were a more veteran team, Cody probably wouldn’t have played more than a handful of games this year.
 
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