Thee Jazz Fan
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I’m excited for WCJ the more I see of him
Utah Jazz Select Walter Clayton Jr, Pick 18 (Trade)
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seattlejazzfan
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collier's new number is 8.
He looks amazing in these highlights. Will need to see what he looks like against NBA size and physicality, but he could become our starter at the 1. He plays at NBA speed and shoots with NBA+ range. He's got advanced timing and advanced footwork, which enabled him to freeze defenders and get his step.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LyDv1uHzeU&t=652s
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LyDv1uHzeU&t=652s
Hearsky
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He plays like a semi-poor man's DWill to me.
I think people should picture WCJ in a Sexton like role vs a starting point guard role. I posted this in the other thread, but even though they have very different games, the results are very similar. WCJ is not a natural playmaker, and probably not someone that you would want playing point guard, especially when surrounded by other non play makers.
seattlejazzfan
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He has a fantastic ability to create just enough space to get a good shot up. I see no reason why this will not translate to the NBA.
Thee Jazz Fan
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I’m getting hyped for him. Summer league will be fun.
Not only that but the reports say that Warriors were actively trying to hunt a pick so they could get him. Lots of teams who liked him a lot.
There was a news report that Golden State tried to trade up to get him. Kind of a good sign if 3 elite franchises wanted him, with one of them having Steph Curry.
This is interesting. His balance / body control does remind of D-Will. Has the same ability to pull up from anyone and square his body towards the rim mid-air.
Has exact same measurements as curry. 6’2” barefoot, 6’4” wingspan, 8’1” standing reach, but weighs 20 lbs heavier and a year older.
One thing I remember was the warriors were super high on Devin Booker when he came out. Can’t find the article that I read ten years ago, but the front office was very complimentary of him before the draft, knowing he wouldn’t be available to them.
CVJ
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Watching him the first player I thought of was Steph.
Not a natural playmaker, but a natural leader and someone who can can manage an offense in a way Sexton doesnt do. End of the day he's a potential elite shooter, and you want to those players starting if they can hold their own in the other facets.
I think it's fine to hope for that, but not fair to expect it.
Most likely WCJ plays a similar role as Sexton, bench scorer or guard you play next to another point/combo guard.
We will see. I expect he's the clear cut starting PG by the end of the season.
AlaskanAssassin
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Having watched a considerable amount of highlights of this guy, and most of his NCAA tournament run this year, I don't see why he doesn't project as a point guard in the NBA. I keep seeing "combo guard" in a lot of scouting reports. I think most of that comes from the scouting reports earlier in his college career. He just plays like a modern day NBA point guard to me. There are plenty of 6'2" guys coming out of college that it's fair to question if they can be a primary ball handler in the NBA (Keyonte), but I just don't see that with WCJ.
The two most common weaknesses in his scouting reports are his size and age.
His size is only an issue if he can't play PG. I'm very convinced he can and he has solid size for a PG. Look at the combine measurements of him and Deron Williams. They might as well be identical. If he can play PG, size is a non-issue.
His age, at 22, is certainly something to consider. Is he a late bloomer? He was highly recruited as a football player and you have to wonder if that may of delayed his development timeline. How much untapped development does he have in his game? Is it considerably less than than the current young PGs we have on our roster? If he was 20 years old I think he would of easily been a top 10 pick, likely going shoulder to shoulder with Jeremiah Fears.
At the end of the day, shooting plays in the NBA. Especially with his quick release. Unlike several of our recent draft picks, we don't have to teach this guy to shoot, and we don't have to teach him to play hard. Our coaching staff has to be THRILLED with that.
I tend to be pessimistic with draft picks outside of the lottery, but I'm calling this one a steal. He will be our starting PG before you know it, and he's going to have a lengthy career as a quality PG in the NBA.
The two most common weaknesses in his scouting reports are his size and age.
His size is only an issue if he can't play PG. I'm very convinced he can and he has solid size for a PG. Look at the combine measurements of him and Deron Williams. They might as well be identical. If he can play PG, size is a non-issue.
His age, at 22, is certainly something to consider. Is he a late bloomer? He was highly recruited as a football player and you have to wonder if that may of delayed his development timeline. How much untapped development does he have in his game? Is it considerably less than than the current young PGs we have on our roster? If he was 20 years old I think he would of easily been a top 10 pick, likely going shoulder to shoulder with Jeremiah Fears.
At the end of the day, shooting plays in the NBA. Especially with his quick release. Unlike several of our recent draft picks, we don't have to teach this guy to shoot, and we don't have to teach him to play hard. Our coaching staff has to be THRILLED with that.
I tend to be pessimistic with draft picks outside of the lottery, but I'm calling this one a steal. He will be our starting PG before you know it, and he's going to have a lengthy career as a quality PG in the NBA.