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Jazz trade John collins

Saint Cy of JFC said:
lol so the net return on the Collins acquisition is a 2nd round pick?

I was hoping to get at least two, but it's w/e. The team is now fully ready to do an organic tank without needing to worry about sitting players
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We were never going to get a return greater than we gave ("free"). I'm actually impressed we were able to land the package we got. It's also a far cry from the package numerous people assumed in that he'd be part of a package "for a star." But I hope there will be some lessons learned in this about trying to use some second-order reasoning on trades where we believe the value of whatever we're acquiring is an investment that will increase over time to become something better or that we're going to rehab someone's value and cash in on it.

But this is the first player trade in quite some time that I've felt even marginally optimistic about the overall deal, so that's a pretty huge plus for me. Not getting a lot of Ws in that context so I'm really going to savor this one.
 
The Clarkson/Collins/Sexton moves over the last three years were brutal, no doubt about that. We can talk about the failures of recent memory forever, but I'm not going to complain about the solution. We had to take out the trash and we did. This summer is all about AA paying for the sins of his father. These uncomfortable "losing trades" should have happened years ago.
 
infection said:
We were never going to get a return greater than we gave ("free"). I'm actually impressed we were able to land the package we got. It's also a far cry from the package numerous people assumed in that he'd be part of a package "for a star." But I hope there will be some lessons learned in this about trying to use some second-order reasoning on trades where we believe the value of whatever we're acquiring is an investment that will increase over time to become something better or that we're going to rehab someone's value and cash in on it.

But this is the first player trade in quite some time that I've felt even marginally optimistic about the overall deal, so that's a pretty huge plus for me. Not getting a lot of Ws in that context so I'm really going to savor this one.
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I mean, if we got Flagg this year I think the Jazz might ahve gone the route in using their salaries to get a star. Who knows. Just because something didnt happen doesnt mean keeping that option open was a bad move.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Still pretty unreal that the Jazz traded NAW for literally nothing though. NAW was really good for us and young and helped the team we were trying to make lose make back to back WCFs.
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NAW was also nearly out of hte league before coming to Utah and one good half season doesnt make you have value.
 
I just decided to watch a kuminga highlight video. Damn. Once of the best highlight videos out there if you are into flashy/explosive/power dunks. Rivals a LeBron/Blake Griffin highlight video (though I think Griffin has the GOAT video of all time)

View: https://youtu.be/KGwLEtIQXa0?si=8aBicnOI7utWHNQr
 
Isaiah Jackson is also someone I would be taking a look at with our cap space. He tore his achilles last year, but he's young and was quite good before going down. I would be willing to work with him through his rehab and hope we get a decent center on the other side.
 
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