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Jazz trade John collins

framer said:
I think at some level Colins was Markkenan insurance. The play a similar archetype that fits well with Kessler. I we had fould a great deal for Lauri, we had Collins.

Now, however, we still have Lauri and it looks like we are keeping him and we have Flip as Collins insurance.
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We are absolutely not keeping Lauri, we're nowhere close and Lauri only has a tiny window left that he could hypothetically defend in the postseason.
 
So excited we are actually starting the re-build. I can stomach losing with young and inexperienced players that provide hope. Last year was honestly a disgrace to the game.

I remember Philadelphia getting a lot of flack for tanking several years ago. They tanked by just not signing veteran players. We had some quality players on our team and just sat them during the prime of their careers. If we were a larger market it would have gotten so much scrutiny.

I actually think the teams that picked up Sexton and Collins got really good deals. I understand that their value was different than we though, supposedly because of their defense. How good on defense could any of these guys looked when surrounded by 19 year olds on a team not really trying to win? John Collins specifically is going to have a lot more value after a year with the Clips.
 
Really glad they were able to get a deal done for Collins. I was worried when Tony said there wasn't a market for him a few days ago. They should now easily be one of the 5 worst teams in the NBA next season and secure a top draft pick.
 
Losing Interest said:
Damn!! Gave up a total of 3 veterans and received a couple lessor veterans plus 2 second round picks? I don't really see the value of saving on salary if the team does not plan to sign any quality free agents. If / when they trade Markkanen, I hope they get more back.
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0 second round picks - they gave one in the Sexton trade.

Collins, Sexton and Clarkson for Nurkic, Anderson and Love.
 
Not sure why you would want to mess around in RFA right now. You don't want to put in EBay bids that you don't want to win. Good/Fair offers will get matched. I'd rather just keep the full MLE and full trade exception and have the ability to take on 40M in bad expiring salaries and just get cap space. Do one or two before the season but hold the TPE into the year and see what team gets desperate to offload money.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Take on salary dumps with the trade exception and MLE. Fill the coffers with second round picks. No offer sheets in FA. Hold our nose for one year. Go into next offseason with a bunch of cap space and decide what you want to do with it.
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Anyone know how much cap space we’ll have next summer?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not sure why you would want to mess around in RFA right now. You don't want to put in EBay bids that you don't want to win. Good/Fair offers will get matched. I'd rather just keep the full MLE and full trade exception and have the ability to take on 40M in bad expiring salaries and just get cap space. Do one or two before the season but hold the TPE into the year and see what team gets desperate to offload money.
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I would consider Grimes and I guess Isaiah Jackson is also an RFA. I'm sure we could get something at deadline salary dump wise, but I would take those guys over potential salary dumps. Grimes depends on the offer though.
 
tksavis said:
Anyone know how much cap space we’ll have next summer?
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This depends heavily on

1. What we trade Lauri for during the season
2. Whether we extend Kessler before next offseason or wait until next offseason.

Those two factors cause the projected cap space to change by more than $70m. If we keep Lauri and extend Kessler at like 5/175, we will have not much space. If we trade Lauri for expirings and picks and do not extend Kessler, we'll have the most space of any team in the league.
 
tksavis said:
Anyone know how much cap space we’ll have next summer?
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Depends on what they want to do with Walker but it will be basically max or ability to get to max very easily.

There aren't going to be FAs you would want to max out though. Partly a guess based on which guys get extended. I would bet its more a thing where we would take someone's slightly overpaid good player or take on more bad salary, rather than land a big FA. Austin Reaves maybe... but do you want AR at 35-40M a year? Trae Young might be another candidate if he does not extend.
 
It's pretty crazy how easily things are taken out of context/misquoted. We had the "big game hunting" quote which was 100% misquoted by the local media and it took a life on it's own. Now the second highest post on reddit is a direct misquote of when Austin Ainge said "won't happen this year".

Do people feel enriched by spreading fake news? Clicks over everything I guess.
 
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