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So the Nets best offer to Cam is 14 million a year for 2 years.... and the Warriors best offer to Kuminga is 20 million for 2 years.

I love the new CBA. All these mid players thinking they can get 30+ million a year are about to learn (Kessler)
 
Shad said:
So the Nets best offer to Cam is 14 million a year for 2 years.... and the Warriors best offer to Kuminga is 20 million for 2 years.

I love the new CBA. All these mid players thinking they can get 30+ million a year are about to learn (Kessler)
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But, but, but, let’s pay Kessler 30 million a year.
 
Shad said:
The best thing about the Pelicans pick next year is, we don't have to worry about them tanking on purpose and puts 1 less team in the west to worry about losing more games than us.
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Wow, the guy with eyore as his profile pic is the guy looking at the glass half full on this one.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The offer still. The NOP pick has a very decent chance of becoming a franchise changing player. It's obviously not guaranteed, but there is still a decent enough chance that you can only trade it for another potentially franchise changing draft pick. Add this to the fact that the odds increase based on the Bucks being a Giannis injury away from even more chances and that pick is so so so valuable.

Interestingly enough I think Utah/Washington at 5/6 is the point of the draft where that draft pick starts to get interesting as far value/risk. I've asked this before, but curious what others think: What if NOP offered that same package for #5/Ace, would you have taken it?
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No. Walking away from this draft with one of Flagg, Harper, Ace, VJ or Tre was worth more than getting a possible lotto pick for next year. Take the prize and let someone with less to risk get the scratch off for next year.
 
Coach Ellis said:
No. Walking away from this draft with one of Flagg, Harper, Ace, VJ or Tre was worth more than getting a possible lotto pick for next year. Take the prize and let someone with less to risk get the scratch off for next year.
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Yeah, it's a hard one for me. The Jazz need someone to be excited about sooner than later, so it would be tough to pass on Ace.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The offer still. The NOP pick has a very decent chance of becoming a franchise changing player. It's obviously not guaranteed, but there is still a decent enough chance that you can only trade it for another potentially franchise changing draft pick. Add this to the fact that the odds increase based on the Bucks being a Giannis injury away from even more chances and that pick is so so so valuable.

Interestingly enough I think Utah/Washington at 5/6 is the point of the draft where that draft pick starts to get interesting as far value/risk. I've asked this before, but curious what others think: What if NOP offered that same package for #5/Ace, would you have taken it?
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It's an interesting question. I wasn't super high on this 3-6 range of this years draft, so gun to my head I'd say that the NOP pick has a higher expected value than Ace. You get a shot at Booz/Dybantsa/Pete which I would put as clearly better prospects, and then I don't much about 4-10 next year but I'd guess Ace would fit somewhere in that range.

It's just not something that would happen in real IMO. The human element wouldn't allow it even if it makes sense on paper. If the Jazz were able to get enough from NOP to draft 13th, for example, maybe that gives the Jazz an immediate face to the "reward" of their tanking efforts.

Carter Bryant and the NOP pick? I'd probably say that is worth it, but I can't speak the pushback the franchise would get.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Yeah, it's a hard one for me. The Jazz need someone to be excited about sooner than later, so it would be tough to pass on Ace.
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If the option would’ve been Kon or Fears vs. trading, I would’ve traded. I just think all of those 5 guys I mentioned have franchise player potential and you don’t trade that for a maybe, possibly, if we’re lucky shot at somebody else being bad. It’s a great asset, but it could easily turn into nothing special too.
 
Obviously the NOP/Bucks pick has the potential to be great, but I'd say both teams have a pretty good chance of making the playoffs too. They won't be tanking, after all.
 
I was listening to an NBA pod on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the Mavs. The thought occurred to me, what if Dallas gets a top 3 pick in the draft next year and Utah doesn't?

Unfortunately that scenario is a very real possibility. I'm not sure my little heart could take it. DOOM DOOM DOOM.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I was listening to an NBA pod on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the Mavs. The thought occurred to me, what if Dallas gets a top 3 pick in the draft next year and Utah doesn't?

Unfortunately that scenario is a very real possibility. I'm not sure my little heart could take it. DOOM DOOM DOOM.
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The uncomfortable reality about the NBA is it's better to be lucky than it is to be good. You could also take the glass half full approach and say that even dumb franchises get lucky.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I was listening to an NBA pod on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the Mavs. The thought occurred to me, what if Dallas gets a top 3 pick in the draft next year and Utah doesn't?

Unfortunately that scenario is a very real possibility. I'm not sure my little heart could take it. DOOM DOOM DOOM.
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I dont really care who beats us in the lottery, it's going to suck the same.
 
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