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Walter Clayton Jr. Hype Thread

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Sorry fellas, i don't see it, he's been mostly embarrassed by his defenders. i wouldn't have minded taking him with the second pick, but moving up was definitely a stretch.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Listening to the Chris Vernon Mismatch podcast and he has the story about this interaction with a fan he named "Target Guy" who told him the Grizzlies should draft Coward.

He then reunited with Target Guy in Vegas for his YouTube show (the Chris Vernon show). Target Guy says Cowards floor is Michael Jordan then reveals his draft board and the #1 player on his board was Walter Clayton and he said WCJ is better than Brunson now
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If you all haven’t seen how hyped Vernon is over Ace and the Jazz it’s worth watching. KOC too, who said the Jazz are on an OKC/Boston trajectory.
 
I still got WCJ as Steph/Stockton lite. He's a proven champion, he'll adjust to the NBA. Also as on draft day I still have Brice as the best player from our 2023 draft over Hendricks and Keyonte. Interested to see how they all play this season, along with Ace.
 
WCJ looked good for the most part. He was a little hesitant but generally kept the ball moving and flowing. Also had some quick hands and some nice transition stuff. Thought good stuff happened when he was in.
 
jazznik said:
That's interesting how different people can come up with very different impressions after watching the same games. To me Keyonte looked much more PG-ish in his two preseason games. I think he reaslly progressed in this department and now is capable to make quite a variety of passes and reads. WCJ showed that he can score but I am still waiting to see his actual ability to run the team. Of course, it was just two games but expected a bit more from a 22-year old PG with 4 years of college experience.

Also, Key looks to be more explosive and taller. I am actually starting to believe that he may become a serviceable PG in a couple of years.
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Haha, bro.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H9pUsQBy2k
 
slc said:
Seems like intel was there were other teams ahead of Jazz that were going to take Clayton
Jazz had to move up to get him
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i aint paying to move up the line at mcdonalds when i can go to five guys instead. i don't see it. he's undersized and plays like it. he'll have a hard time getting that great shot off when he can't shoot over his defender and doesn't look like a natural playmaker. i'm saying it here: trey burke 2.0
 
jazznik said:
That's interesting how different people can come up with very different impressions after watching the same games. To me Keyonte looked much more PG-ish in his two preseason games. I think he reaslly progressed in this department and now is capable to make quite a variety of passes and reads. WCJ showed that he can score but I am still waiting to see his actual ability to run the team. Of course, it was just two games but expected a bit more from a 22-year old PG with 4 years of college experience.

Also, Key looks to be more explosive and taller. I am actually starting to believe that he may become a serviceable PG in a couple of years.
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Keyonte doesn't often beat people off the dribble and get into the paint. He doesn't put pressure on the rim or collapse the defense. His shooting when he's on the ball also hasn't been consistent enough to draw defenders out. So in that sense, he isn't an 'advantage creator.' I don't consider WCJ an advantage creator either for many of the same reasons. WCJ at least forces defenders over screens. I think WCJ still looks more like a backup longterm, but I guess we'll see.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Keyonte doesn't often beat people off the dribble and get into the paint. He doesn't put pressure on the rim or collapse the defense.
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Agree to disagree. Seen it many times in the 2 pre season games this year and many times in the past 2 years.
 
I think what the Jazz want is to bring in a big guard or wing who initiates, which then makes either Keyonte or WCJ more of an off-ball player and secondary playmaker. Obviously, Darryn Peterson would be amazing.
 
jumpin bean said:
looks like all the WCJ naysayers are doubling down
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I have been a naysayer and I'm doing the opposite.

I'm an optimist and a homer though.

I was hating on keyonte alot the past 2 seasons and I might be his biggest cheerleader since the end of last season lol
 
str8line said:
Steph Curry right here. Ya'll talking **** gotta get some readers.


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1976861429857956141
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I dont see Steph Curry in the mannerisms. Steph is running off screens, 2 and 3 cuts to get open, mostly off the ball stuff, and a lights out shooter with lots of wiggle.

WCJ is more stout, a likely plus defender, a playmaker, a capable shooter but hardly running off screens, and a savvy player with vet presence for a rookie.

I love what I see, but the play reminds me a ton of Derek Fisher (the player not the liarcheatface). Fisher was a plus defender who didnt require a ton of wiggle, good at setting up others, a capable shooter, a player who made the right read consistently, and full of vet savvy.
 
This is not a slight, I am super high on WCJ but he isnt being used off the ball running around screens in ANY of those highlights. He didnt cut multiple directions with or without the ball. The floater was the only play that had me thinking steph. He did have 2 hesi's that lead to open layups but that doesnt make him steph.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
This is not a slight, I am super high on WCJ but he isnt being used off the ball running around screens in ANY of those highlights. He didnt cut multiple directions with or without the ball. The floater was the only play that had me thinking steph. He did have 2 hesi's that lead to open layups but that doesnt make him steph.
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It's a crazy comp I'll admit, but he just reminds me of Steph so much when I watch him play, minus Steph's quickness. The pace of his game, the court awareness, the lightning quick release, the deeep ball threat, the ability to get his own shot, the savvy defensive plays, the floaters, the ability to finish at the rim, THE MVP CHAMPIONSHIP PEDIGREE! C'mon bro, clutch like Steph.

Just one game but his line was 34 MIN, 20 PTS, 5 REB, 5 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK. That's basically a average Steph line, minus about 5 points.

Also WCJ averages 45% FG and 88% FT for his college career. Steph's career is 47% FG and 91% FT.

And like Steph, he looks cool, calm and collected out there like it comes easy to him. And did you know he didn't start playing BB until high school?
 
cctrackstar said:
i aint paying to move up the line at mcdonalds when i can go to five guys instead. i don't see it. he's undersized and plays like it. he'll have a hard time getting that great shot off when he can't shoot over his defender and doesn't look like a natural playmaker. i'm saying it here: trey burke 2.0
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I am not saying he'll be great, but I don't get why everyone these days dismisses "undersized" guards. Here is a list of current NBA guards Walter's size or smaller: Steph Curry, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Kyrie Irving, Jalen Brunson, Damian Lillard, Kyle Lowry, Drue Holiday... not to mention a bunch of retired hall of famers...
 
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