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Jefferon for Bogut?

He also has an extra year on his contract. He isn't playing good this year from what his stats say. Also his injury history.

Not sure if I would.
 
Injury history is a killer for me regarding a Bogut deal. When he's on the floor he's great and he'd probably love playing here and up his effectiveness even further. I would be hesitant in trying to work out a long term plan with him though.
 
The Jazz are going to be stuck with something that they don't want if they trade Jefferson.

I am for this trade for two reasons. First, more than likely Bogut is done for the year. With this trade it automatically gives time to Kanter and Favors. It will give the team a much better understanding of the future of those two. Second, the Jazz are one of the rare teams that can afford to take on a big man that is hurt. If Bogut goes down next year we still have Kanter, Favors and Millsap to cover those minutes.

The worst thing about this trade would be a fully healthy Bogut taking away minutes from the young guys.

I say yes.
 
Yikes, no thanks. The poor performance, extra year and injury problems make this a ****ing awful trade.
 
I'm a Utes fan, so my homerism says yes. But as others have said, the guy can't stay healthy. Plus, Kanter is our center of the future. I'd prefer to trade Big Al to someone like Atlanta that needs a big but has depth at PG and SF.
 
Not quite sure why we would even consider this trade. Jefferson is better than I've ever seen him on the offensive end, and he remains relatively healthy.

Bogut plays much better D than Al, but he's over the top fragile. I'd take Al every single time over Bogut.

Besides, we're going to use Al or Paul to go after a 1,2 or 3.
 
What is the point of trading Jefferson? Is it to get something better back that we cannot pass up or is it more of a addition by subtraction scenario. I say addition by subtraction. Getting rid of Jefferson by adding Bogut is a near perfect situation.
 
Yes, yes and yes. You have to take this risk. Bogut is a hard worker, good role model, and one of the better centers in the league. It gets PT for the young uns this year, a defensive big for next and when his contract is up, he might be willing to take a backup role/contract and Bogut makes Millsap expendable. You can package Millsap with the GS pick for a real wing player.

With Bogut we are set at the 4/5 for the next 5+ years. Also, it brings an alum to the team who actually has NBA talent.
 
orangello said:
What is the point of trading Jefferson? Is it to get something better back that we cannot pass up or is it more of a addition by subtraction scenario. I say addition by subtraction. Getting rid of Jefferson by adding Bogut is a near perfect situation.
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I'm no Jefferson fan, but is Bogut really all that much better? When he's missing 40% of his games and not expiring in 2013, we'll all hate his *** pretty hard. The Jazz aren't winning anything this year or next. Might as well not make stupid short-sighted moves. This would be a catastrophe.
 
No, if we get rid of a big asset I want to see a shooter or a pass-first PG in return. We Don't need to trade a big for another big unless we're talking about D Howard.
 
One thing people haven't mentioned is Bogut is a great passer. I'd do the trade just so I won't have the here the "AJ is a black hole" talk 24/7
 
With all do respect to the comments about an injury prone bogut his elbow issue that had him sitting out what like a year and a half was caused by a push from behind while going for a fast break dunk. It could have happened to any one.
 
As much as I like Bogut, he has an even more horrid injury history then Boozer and AK47 does, also all I've heard on this board is that we need to trade Al to free up time for the young bigs. It does free up time this year, but what about next year and the year after that.

Some one suggested we make him take a reduced roll on the bench, that's not an option for a player making 13 and 14 million the next two years. If we take on his contract does that mean we let Millsap walk. What happens to Favors and Kanter? It would hurt there morale. This is not a very good trade at all.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
As much as I like Bogut, he has an even more horrid injury history then Boozer and AK47 does, also all I've heard on this board is that we need to trade Al to free up time for the young bigs. It does free up time this year, but what about next year and the year after that.

Some one suggested we make him take a reduced roll on the bench, that's not an option for a player making 13 and 14 million the next two years. If we take on his contract does that mean we let Millsap walk. What happens to Favors and Kanter? It would hurt there morale. This is not a very good trade at all.
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Answer to all your questions:

One, the rotation for this year is Millsap, Kanter, Favors.

Two, trade Millsap and one or both of our first round picks for a top 3 pick or an All-Star.

Three, that makes a lineup of Bogut, Kanter, Favors. Favors and Bogut start next year. Favors and Kanter start the next. Then Bogut's contract expires, he signs a backup deal (similar to Millsap's). The 4-5 is locked up for the next 3-8 years. With a three man rotation, that is 30+ mins a night for each one.

No morale hurt, Millsap can think he is the man on some other team and get eaten alive in reality.
 
If Bogut was healthy and didn't play so hard that makes him get hurt all the time then yes. Bogut is a great defender and he's one of the few guys in the league that plays with passion that you can see on his face every game.
 
Archie- I wonder if he was on a team with two other very good big men...if he would back off a little, play at 95% instead of 110%.
 
Nope. He is a smart, defensive oriented player but I think Kanter and Favors both have more potential than him.
 
Bogut is a true center so I like him, but he's also an injury prone all the time, and I'm not sure either, if it's because of his playing style or just because of his body.
 
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