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freakazoid said:
This isn't about becoming great by getting a late lottery pick. It's about improving the team by adding an asset at a time that maximizes it's value to our rebuild. I would never suggest losing on purpose. That should NEVER be an option. However, if our coaching staff just happened to decide that this would be good game to rest up certain players more than usual, and give other guys more minutes than usual, I think that would have been an absolutely FANTASTIC decision.

Here's a list of teams that have improved at some point by adding an asset at the right time.

Boston Celtics
New Jersey Nets
New York Knicks
Philadelphia 76ers
Toronto Raptors
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
Memphis Grizzlies
New Orleans Hornets
San Antonio Spurs
Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers
Detroit Pistons
Indiana Pacers
Milwaukee Bucks
Denver Nuggets
Minnesota Timberwolves
Portland Trail Blazers
Oklahoma City Thunder
Utah Jazz
Atlanta Hawks
Charlotte Bobcats
Miami Heat
Orlando Magic
Washington Wizards
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Clippers
Los Angeles Lakers
Phoenix Suns
Sacramento Kings
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If you were serious you would have given examples. NY tanked like ******** to get Ewing. And it worked, except the ring part. Same for Cleveland with LeBruh. At least NY got a guy that gave his all for his city his whole career besides a couple at the very end.

Every year teams tank. This year is an unreal demonstration of tank fever. It's ridiculous to believe that Utah could have out-tanked any of the mega tankers. What would KOC do, shut down Al? According to a lot of you that would result in more wins.

Utah does not tank. Utah also has never fired a coach. Ever.

I do not know how Freak expects the team to tank from this position. To me, It's a lot easier to wish losses as a fan than to actually lose as a player. And as a fan I want to win. That's just me.
 
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zbone said:
So if GSW wins no games and Pistons win 2 (likely) and Nets and Toronto win 1 and 2 then we will have a coin toss for 6-8 between 3 teams. Not as bright as when you show records "to pass".
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Sure, but a tie isn't an automatic loss. There's still a 50% or 33% chance there.

Also I expect GS will win SOMETHING down the stretch. As poor as their record has been since the Ellis trade, they're still 5-14. That should translate into 1-2 more wins, at least when New Orleans visits Oakland, right? Unless they enter some completely different level of suckitude.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Because the NBA is full of examples of teams that became great by tanking to get late lottery picks? Name one team that falls into that category.
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The San Antonio Spurs are a perfect example. They did not tank on purpose, but they lost David Robinson for a season to injury. The result was them falling into the lottery, drafting Tim Duncan, and winning a bunch of titles. That being said, I don't want the Jazz to tank. I think there is a difference between losing while trying to win (what the Spurs season was), and intentionally tanking.

That being said, I can't imagine that most of the players on Golden State would want to tank. Job security if they don't have a draft pick :)
 
What would KOC do, shut down Al?
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Ummmm no.

Did you see the Atlanta game?

Have you seen most of this season?

The Jazz have two young players that could have played a lot more.

No need to shut down Al Jefferson. But why play him 51 mins?

Since the start of the season, his PT has climbed. IN fact, in Dec he averaged 30 mins... In Jan, 33. In April? Nearly 38.

This is completely contrary to what makes sense.

As it stands right now, the Jazz aren't going to make the playoffs and they aren't maximizing the time this year to develop young talent.
 
bat said:
I think 2 wins and we wrap this baby up. Tomorrow would be a nice win, especially if Portland shuts Aldridge down.
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I agree 2 will do it. Looking at the GS schedule on Updated OP, the Warriors would be expected to lose all games except the NO and Minn games at the end of the season. And possibly this portland game if Aldridge is sitting.

Anyone know if NJ or Detroit has more than 2 winnable games?
 
they think that because joe lacob made some vague comments the morning after he was booed at chris mullin's jersey retirement ceremony. local beat writers took those comments to KOC and he basically wouldn't even justify them with a response. translation: lacob was just trying to save face to his fans and/or give himself some cover in case they went into full tank mode.

so no, i don't think KOC will do any deal to adjust the protection on the pick.
 
northeast said:
You are not the boss of me.
You go ahead and prove that they did not tank on purpose!
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There is a difference, imo, between tanking (shutting down the season in hopes of bettering your draft position) and not doing everything within your power to win a single game (for the purposes of doing BETTER in the playoffs).

That make sense?
 
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