2012 Election

[Mission Accomplished]

Agreed but we are not in that situation right now. So you can argue that point if and when. AS for this decision it is a conservative push on our elections and civil liberties just like the patriot act. The right acts like they hold the constitution as if it is the bible yet they trample your rights while telling you they defend them.

 

[Stoked]

Agreed but we are not in that situation right now. So you can argue that point if and when. AS for this decision it is a conservative push on our elections and civil liberties just like the patriot act. The right acts like they hold the constitution as if it is the bible yet they trample your rights while telling you they defend them.

Last I checked the Senate was democrat controled and if they wanted to put a stop to some of these bills or bill extensions they could. Same with a Democrat President with veto power. They are all to blame.

 

[One Brow]

looks like SCOTUS is 5 to 4 conservative thus they are going to push conservative ideals through the court

A minority of SCOTUS decisions are 5 to 4, and Kennedy is hardly an out-and-out conservative.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

looks like in this case Kennedy was leaning conservative here is the protest by the left https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZX.html.


One Brow could Obama veto this?

 

[Scat]

looks like in this case Kennedy was leaning conservative here is the protest by the left https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZX.html.


One Brow could Obama veto this?

Did you really just ask if the pres can veto a SC decision?

 

[Mission Accomplished]

I know he was against it but I don't see any thing he could do to change it.

 

[Stoked]

I know he was against it but I don't see any thing he could do to change it.

Supreme Court decisions cannot be vetoed.

 

[One Brow]

I know he was against it but I don't see any thing he could do to change it.

1) You made your point badly
2) Obama will wil also be getting a lot of money under the new structure, even if he has (as most) mild opposition to it
3) Saying the court has 5 conservatives is still basically incorrect

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Agreed. I don't think you have any room to debate if you don't at least put some effort into voting.

If you're going to take the stance that you're voting between two guys you don't want every 4 years, then wouldn't you want voter turnout to reflect that? You should be hoping for some extreme like 10% voter turnout if you want to send a real message. They are not going to change anything until people show them it's a sham choice.

 

[Gameface]

Personally I strongly dislike thinking like that. In my opinion you should always vote.

Here's your choices.

Vote or die ************!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Whenever I see this I just see "2012 Erection".

 

[TroutBum]

Agreed. I don't think you have any room to debate if you don't at least put some effort into voting.

This is stupid. If you don't like both candidates, you're going to vote for one of them just because? Idiocy. Do your homework and vote for the person you want. If they both suck, write someone in. If you don't want to do that, then don't vote. The real problems are people that go out and vote without doing their due-diligence, and those who go and punch the party choice. (the one that votes straight dem or rep) Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should do it. Retards, the lot of you.