There are independent audits biannually. As for the being concerned about the LDS Church taking a stand on Gay Marriage--I am not aware of any practicing Mormon who believes Gay Marriage is the right path for this country. Civil Unions for homosexuals is different.
How the Mormons Make Money
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There are independent audits biannually. As for the being concerned about the LDS Church taking a stand on Gay Marriage--I am not aware of any practicing Mormon who believes Gay Marriage is the right path for this country. Civil Unions for homosexuals is different.
Some wonder why we're a nation in debt.
CONAN
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Because there's no flat tax?
Notice none of the tithing money goes to helping others in a humanitarian way. Also note, and this is my understanding, "other buildings" are church related building for administration and not "mall like" structures.
Money for helping others locally, and humanitarian projects come from people donating fast offerings. As people fast for 2 meals or 24 hours, they donate the money that would have been spent on food for those meals to help others, and often they will be much more generous than the actual cost of the meals.
There are also many, many people that donate large amounts of money and property to the LDS Church. Not all of the property that the LDS Church owns is from them buying it up, it is from that land being donated. There are also other funds that people can donate money towards. They can help fund education for people in other countries where they cannot afford to pay for that education and cannot get loans on their own. As they pay back these low or no interest loans, the money can be used to help others. Donations can go specifically to missionaries, to Temple building, and many other things. I don't know for sure, but I have a feeling much of the money that went into downtown was from a few very rich donors and not from general donations.
For people worried about where the 10% goes, even though they don't and won't pay anything, I find that funny. At some point in life you are going to have to trust someone. I have dealt with donations on the small scale at one point, and I can say that in my experience the people handling the money are honest and trustworthy people, and that there are decent checks and audits put in place to keep those that aren't in line as well. If you think about the number of chapels, seminaries, temples, administration buildings, missionary buildings, mission upkeep and rents, and all of the other things covered by tithing... do you really think there is an extra 2 billion to put into a mall?
fallenchicken
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Well, this is interesting. The Church has deemed homosexuality a sin, and maybe it is-- once again I don't have a direct line to this God guy. Though I know people (well I know one person, but I know there are people) who left the church, as in that was the final straw for them, after prop 8. I suppose they might not be considered practicing, and support of equal marriage--as it goes against church brass--is probably frowned upon (and maybe that's why you're not aware of any practicing Mormons who accepts gay marriage).
And you say civil unions for homosexuals is different, civil unions an acceptable opinion to have--perhaps because you yourself have the opinion that Civil Unions are acceptable. Though some would say that no, they aren't. Maybe in your own church. But that's an acceptable opinion to have, just not gay marriage.
Take a group people and put them in a room and see if you can get each and every one to agree with one sentiment. Even at a political convention. Especially when the issue is the rights of others. Now here there is a group of people in a room who all think the exact same, e.g. gay marriage being unacceptable. We can expand that out to the millions of practicing members of a church, who according to you all think gay marriage is the wrong path for this country.
In order to reach that point you would have to take out all individual thinking and let a few men do the thinking for everyone, to get everyone to agree. And perhaps this man or men would have to have like a... a... a god! On their side, yeah. Because if they had God on their side it would make it very hard to disagree with them.
But of course that's not what's happening. Just like how having a God on your side would never be used to get people to give you money.
NAOS doesn't mind sharing, actually I heard he prefers it.
How do you feel about internet scams targeting old people? They believe their money is going to let a Nigerian Prince pay them a million dollars, so why should anyone care about it? Bout the same thing as thinking 10% of your paycheck is going to make God make your life awesome.
green
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Seriously? This post is pathetic. Comparing internet scams to religious donations? Give me a break.
Serious question here: Why can't we believe in absolute truths? If sacrificing makes your life and those around it better, isn't it true? So why do you get all pissed off that someone is sacrificing for something, whatever that may be for?
And for you to insinuate that sacrificing and giving money to a church that has an extremely large welfare system, that donates millions every year to those who need it, that helps people get back on their feet to an internet scam is disgusting and pathetic. If you are against tithing, then you are against social security, the welfare system, the red cross, etc, etc, etc. At least when you give money to the Mormon Church, you know they are operating in the black, unlike the government forms of "welfare."
Could you imagine how sound the welfare system and social security would be in this country if it were run by the Mormon Church instead of the government?
Like I said earlier, instead of banging on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we should be trying to emulate them.
fallenchicken
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I'm trying not to.
Hartsock
Banned
One of my favorite posters but this post really is pathetic.
Hartsock
Banned
This quote right here shows you don't know ****. If you can't see the governments welfare program is ****ed, and the lds church's is pretty damn good then you are a retardddddddd.