People get stupid when it comes to rivalries like this. Just an observation.
No BYU-Utah Rivalry Football Games in 2014 or 2015
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Husserl? Is that you?
Typical slobbering drunk Utah fan response. "Ya, you just laid down a mountain of smack that hit so hard it shook my nuts like dice in a Yahtzee cup, so I'll just play it off like NONE OF THAT MATTERS, LOL!!11 Ooooh, I think I'll emphasize it with some SWEARS!!!1 ***** you **** head ****ers!" /thumbs up.
Bwahaha, you came bursting into this thread with a decent C- game, and that is the best you've got? Damn, man... Just, damn.
As the kids say? Right. You're the kind of guy that says crap like that all the time, along with: Bro, lulz, WIN, tl;dr, and whatever sweet handshakes and fist bumps that go "BOO YA BLAST" you tools do.
This would say otherwise...
Awww, man. Why you gotta be bringing up stuff that is in the past? Why not be in the NOW?
Pssst, it's just the guys in red.
CONAN
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Agreed for the most part. 3rd place isn't the top of the mountain like BYU but it's still solid.
green
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Trout gets his *** handed to him. His response:
"Yeah, well, your dumb. (misspelling intended). I'll call him a dumbhead, and I'll be cool."
54-10 bitch. 3 out of the last 4. 7 out of the last 10. 54 out of 89. Say what you want, we kick your *** where it counts.
Enjoy your miracle wins over a pathetic WAC team from Logan. At least you can storm the field every other year when you beat them.
"Yeah, well, your dumb. (misspelling intended). I'll call him a dumbhead, and I'll be cool."
54-10 bitch. 3 out of the last 4. 7 out of the last 10. 54 out of 89. Say what you want, we kick your *** where it counts.
Enjoy your miracle wins over a pathetic WAC team from Logan. At least you can storm the field every other year when you beat them.
green
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LOL. Yeah, and you had like 16 players on the ALL-INDEPENDENT team. It was tough beating out some of those 5"7' Army players, but with the help of Roscoe's slip and slide, your players were able to "Rise Up" overcome challenges. Like how you were beat by 44 points, then you came back hungry and prepared for your WAC schedule.
Had NO idea Army had such massively tall players. They should be in the NBA.
CONAN
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Yup but not much solace when 3rd place was still so far away.
7StraightIsGreat
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Man, after not posting in the rivalry threads for a couple of days and then coming back and reading them, I have to admit that it does seem to be getting rather silly. Some want to argue history, some want to argue the 1984 NC, some want to argue the here and now. Well fret no longer. I'm here to lay down the truth for both sides. Here's how I see it:
-If you're the type who wants to argue the history of the entire rivalry, obviously Utah has the clear upper hand in head-to-head meetings. And while it does feel good as a Ute fan knowing that, nobody really cares what was going on in the 20's and 30's. So if you're a Ute fan talking smack, sure it doesn't hurt to bring it up, but you better bring more than that if you want to be considered an "A" rivalry poster.
-BYU does have a NC. As Ute fans we can talk all we want about how they didn't play anybody that year, etc. and even though all of that is correct, it doesn't change the fact that BYU has an NC trophy on display in Provo. The flip side of this argument if you're a Cougar fan is, so what? It happened in 84 and under the current format of college football, it could never happen again. You should enjoy your championship and the glory years that surrounded it, but please be able to bring more than just this to the smack talk table. As I've said before, it really gives you the Uncle Rico Complex.
-BYU absolutely owned Utah in the 70's and 80's. Ute fan should have no problem admitting that BYU had the better program in during those 2 decades. Sometimes facts are just facts. But conversely, BYU fans need to understand that in the 90's, Utah stopped the bleeding, turned it back into a pretty dead even series and slowly started to pull ahead as we headed into the 2000's.
-That gets us to the "here and now" part of the discussion. I think with any major rivalry, most of the fans focus should be on the here and now which I think in this instance can be around the past 10-12 years. Looking back at that time frame, Utah's had the better program. Just like Utah fans need to understand that there were periods of time in which BYU was better, BYU fan needs to take a step back and realize that this current time belongs to Utah and brace themselves for the fact the gap may even be growing bigger. Don't agree with me? Well the numbers of the past 12 years won't agree with you.
-Now, the "future" of the argument. Really hard to tell at this point considering that we don't even know how much these schools will be playing in the future. I will say this though: When it comes to Utah winning a NC, I don't see that as them "validating" themselves in the eyes of BYU and it's fans if that were to happen. I would see it as more of a validation on a nation wide scale and an amazing reward to the school and it's fans. In fact, Utah winning a NC would have absolutley nothing to do with BYU just like BYU's NC had absolutely nothing to do with Utah. Unless these 2 schools start boasting multiple NC's and even playing head-to-head in some NC games (never gonna happen), it will never be about the titles. This rivalry was and is about the 2 schools and the head-to-head performances.
We all take swipes at each other, but as a Ute fan I can honestly say that' I'm extremely happy where the program is at and where it appears to be headed. I certainly wouldn't trade places with BYU in regards to the future well being of their program.
-If you're the type who wants to argue the history of the entire rivalry, obviously Utah has the clear upper hand in head-to-head meetings. And while it does feel good as a Ute fan knowing that, nobody really cares what was going on in the 20's and 30's. So if you're a Ute fan talking smack, sure it doesn't hurt to bring it up, but you better bring more than that if you want to be considered an "A" rivalry poster.
-BYU does have a NC. As Ute fans we can talk all we want about how they didn't play anybody that year, etc. and even though all of that is correct, it doesn't change the fact that BYU has an NC trophy on display in Provo. The flip side of this argument if you're a Cougar fan is, so what? It happened in 84 and under the current format of college football, it could never happen again. You should enjoy your championship and the glory years that surrounded it, but please be able to bring more than just this to the smack talk table. As I've said before, it really gives you the Uncle Rico Complex.
-BYU absolutely owned Utah in the 70's and 80's. Ute fan should have no problem admitting that BYU had the better program in during those 2 decades. Sometimes facts are just facts. But conversely, BYU fans need to understand that in the 90's, Utah stopped the bleeding, turned it back into a pretty dead even series and slowly started to pull ahead as we headed into the 2000's.
-That gets us to the "here and now" part of the discussion. I think with any major rivalry, most of the fans focus should be on the here and now which I think in this instance can be around the past 10-12 years. Looking back at that time frame, Utah's had the better program. Just like Utah fans need to understand that there were periods of time in which BYU was better, BYU fan needs to take a step back and realize that this current time belongs to Utah and brace themselves for the fact the gap may even be growing bigger. Don't agree with me? Well the numbers of the past 12 years won't agree with you.
-Now, the "future" of the argument. Really hard to tell at this point considering that we don't even know how much these schools will be playing in the future. I will say this though: When it comes to Utah winning a NC, I don't see that as them "validating" themselves in the eyes of BYU and it's fans if that were to happen. I would see it as more of a validation on a nation wide scale and an amazing reward to the school and it's fans. In fact, Utah winning a NC would have absolutley nothing to do with BYU just like BYU's NC had absolutely nothing to do with Utah. Unless these 2 schools start boasting multiple NC's and even playing head-to-head in some NC games (never gonna happen), it will never be about the titles. This rivalry was and is about the 2 schools and the head-to-head performances.
We all take swipes at each other, but as a Ute fan I can honestly say that' I'm extremely happy where the program is at and where it appears to be headed. I certainly wouldn't trade places with BYU in regards to the future well being of their program.
CONAN
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Jazzfan12 is a tool but that's a decent post.
Ute fans should be nothing but happy considering where they came from. BYU drug them along for so long. Utah has caught up and even surpassed BYU in some areas (they'll never have an NC and that's a big hole but oh well). No question Utah stands on their own now and needs zero support from BYU. That wasn't always the case. To me that's the biggest thing for Utes is that they are out of BYU's shadow.
Ute fans should be nothing but happy considering where they came from. BYU drug them along for so long. Utah has caught up and even surpassed BYU in some areas (they'll never have an NC and that's a big hole but oh well). No question Utah stands on their own now and needs zero support from BYU. That wasn't always the case. To me that's the biggest thing for Utes is that they are out of BYU's shadow.
You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later. I'll just add that I'm a fan of both BYU and Utah, but in head-to-head, I'll always root for Utah because that's my school. As for right now, Utah is in a better place than BYU. There's no denying it. I definitely want to see Utah climb the Pac-12 mountain. It could take a few years, but that's how it goes. I really want BYU to get back in a conference, even if they have to stop showing re-broadcasts on BYUtv. I don't think BYU can go much longer than 3 or 4 more years as an independent before the program starts to take a sharp decline. I could be wrong on that, but who knows? So anyway, I'm not too much of a trash talker on this because I like both schools.
green
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Which is what I have been saying for the last 5 pages.
jazzman did a nice job of summing it all up.
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The difference is that when you say it you come as an ***hole and a dick about it. You always have to state you "facts" in as rude a manner as possible.
Where as the post that you are quoting stated the facts in a respectful and unbiased manner.
Im a byu fan and i recognize that the utes are in a better postition right now and have caught up to and passed byu as the better FOOTBALL program. Basketball is another matter
Nobody should want to talk about Utah basketball. Not even BYU fans that want to gloat. It's that bad. Let's just take a deep breath, slowly walk away, and pretend that Utah basketball wasn't mentioned at all.
CONAN
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No question Ute fans should keep these discussions on football or maybe womens gymnastics.
It's toxic. Everyone should want to avoid it like the plague.
SaltyDawg
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Yeah we wouldn't want to go all "BYU fan" on you guys when we start bringing up national championships in basketball that happened before most of us were born.