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Loitering around the SL County Convention today, I paused to eavesdrop on Mia Love a couple of times, more than an hour apart.


She speaks my language. . . . sounds like a constitutionalist and states' rights advocate, conservative republican.

Has an impressive personal presence. . . great articulation of ideas. . . .

Nobody's fool.

Darn. . . . Mitt's son has endorsed her. . . . . so I take it, just another player.

We need people like her to make real commitments to protect our human rights and take down the fascist governance power grab. I just need some way to persuade her it's worth standing for. . . .
 
Maybe it's time to admit there's more to Mitt than you'd like to admit?

My wife knows people, tries to tell me what to do and think. Awesome Lady is the kind or rare praise I don't just toss out every Sunday.

She says there are people who "know everybody", who can get things done. She's planted a book "Tipping Point" under my nose, and told me I can't be a recluse/hermit farmer in the middle of nowhere and make any difference, and that time spent on forums like this is a complete waste of time, because nobody in here develops any meaningful social life.

Still, the power of ideas is pretty awesome, and some people have the personality and personal presence to make their ideas convincing or credible.

I was truly impressed with the attributes and total package of Mia Love. And even more impressed with what she's saying. Mitt or his son would just be stupid NOT to endorse her. Maybe they just aren't as stupid as I think they are, generally.
 
Is she hot?

Mia is not my idea of "hot", just not fat. When she's fifty she still won't be fat, and probably still will be able to run up hills a lot of folks wouldn't even try to climb.

She's the kind of lady one of my former bosses was married to. He was twice her size, but he said she was credible when she said "Before you do that, remember this. I know where you sleep and I have a big frying pan."
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqzjwBdLJUQ&feature=related


She's in my district so I'll definitely vote for her. She's like the anti-Sheila Jackson Lee/Maxine Waters rubbish that has been the vocal public representation of black women in congress for the past 20 years. Hot - politically - indeed.


That is a great link, and I browsed a bit from there and found several other very good ones on the subject.

I'm actually still choosing Carl Wimmer on this race. I don't like candidates like Mia who think they need to limit their service because their kids come first. What I want to hear is that my kids come first. But all of the candidates on the 4th CD do this, even Matheson. Matheson has raised his family, as his father did, to believe in elitism. I want someone who is talking about service, and telling their kids they are making a sacrifice to serve others.

Maxine Waters is not the smartest congresswoman, I admit. But like Rosa Parks she has held an ear out for someone who is pretty smart. Lyndon LaRouche. While the Republican candidates for the 4th CD of Utah might have it pretty right about limited government when it comes to imposing mandates on everyone, and ruling everything top-down, and on reserving rights and powers not specifically delegated to the Federal government by the Constitution, anyone who uses the word "We" to begin a description of what "we" should do as a nation, really is not getting the point. They are habitual, unconscious, addicted socialists. Every one of them. Including Mia.

If they believe in the principles of human rights, they should begin that sentence with "The Government" or "The Federal Government". Followed by either a "Should Not" relating to things not delegated by the Constitution to the government, or a "Should" relating to delegated responsibilities and functions. Particularly in respect to safeguarding our human rights and personal rights. . . . privacy, due process when charged with crime, jury trial, jury nullification of laws that people shouldn't have to be subject to, free speech, the right to peaceably assemble and seek redress of grievances. . . . without getting listed on some "terrorist watchlist" for doing so, and many many other things that people deserve in all justice, in any nation, just because they are human beings. Things no government can define or limit about what it means to be "human", because these things exist in our own hearts and minds and just simply are nobody else's business.

I guess I could just be despairing about how socialist we all are, except that the same folks who wrote our Constitution were also socialists. They believed that we could do a lot to make life better for ourselves and our posterity by acting together in ways that were constructive, and in our own interests, rather than by just letting elites like the British nobility walk all over us and manage us like cattle. What our founding socialists were actually trying to prevent was the hijacking of our government, something that has happened. And that makes it our problem today to regain control of our government, seizing it back from elites, cartel interests, and everyone who thinks they should rule us somehow.

Today, Barack Obama is a British sort of thinker, and a pawn of the "interests". Lyndon LaRouche has got that one nailed. He's calling for just impeaching this traitor to American principles, and taking our own destiny into our hands as Americans once again. Though a dedicated Democrat, he's actually closer to our founding fathers than our republican "constitutionalists" in some ways. And that's where I like people like Maxine Waters sometimes. While too stupid to be a real ideologue, she actually thinks about what the people's interests are sometimes.

British forms of socialism are truly top-down management by and for the elite interests, and that is how our government today has gone wrong. Very smart but very selfish folks who sit in their parlors and use whatever strings of influence they have, or can contrive, to manage everything imaginable according to their own particular turn of mind.

I wouldn't make a lieutenant in Lyndon LaRouche's little band, either. Another type of intellectual, with another answer to all the problems of mankind. Might have some ideas "we" could use to our own benefit, though.

We should figure out what we need to do to take charge of our government once again, and make it a good servant where we need it.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w9o3MV9h0iw

Hopefully she brushes up on some things or hires an intelligent staff. Moments like these are discouraging. Insider trading is a pretty basic thing not to be familiar with if you are running for Congress.

This reminds me of when I was living in Utah County and a campaigner for one of local state level senators came to my door. I asked him about alcohol permits/licensing in the state and what his stance was on it. The campaigner had no idea. The guy called up the guy running for Senate right then and there so I could ask him. The would-be (and now current) state level senator had no idea what I was talking about and didn't know there was a shortage of permits for businesses desiring one and didn't think it was an issue. "Do you run a restaurant or bar or something?" is what he asked me.

Yeah. But guess what, a few months after he won he came out against more liquor permits and was in favor of shutting down one of the Utah County state liquor stores. I'm sure he put a lot of thought into his position.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w9o3MV9h0iw

Hopefully she brushes up on some things or hires an intelligent staff. Moments like these are discouraging. Insider trading is a pretty basic thing not to be familiar with if you are running for Congress.

This reminds me of when I was living in Utah County and a campaigner for one of local state level senators came to my door. I asked him about alcohol permits/licensing in the state and what his stance was on it. The campaigner had no idea. The guy called up the guy running for Senate right then and there so I could ask him. The would-be (and now current) state level senator had no idea what I was talking about and didn't know there was a shortage of permits for businesses desiring one and didn't think it was an issue. "Do you run a restaurant or bar or something?" is what he asked me.

Yeah. But guess what, a few months after he won he came out against more liquor permits and was in favor of shutting down one of the Utah County state liquor stores. I'm sure he put a lot of thought into his position.


What I eventually got around to TRYING to say to my wife was. . . . .

She's really pretty cool, and has a sort of street smarts that comes across as pretty smart. . . . . My wife watched the little DVD promo piece they handed me, too, and like Scat was just bowled over. I mean here's a gal who handed over $1000 to the last black politician she liked. I had to backtrack pretty hard, or our budget would just be ruined.

So I explained it all like this. You know, when you're a real people person who can get the sense of the moment real fast, you can talk like you actually know what you're talking about, even if you only heard about it three seconds ago. So here's Mia, running in a Republican race with some conservatives who are all talking about the Constitution, and how the Federal government should live up it's agreement with Utah in 1896 to eventually allow almost all the lands within the State borders to pass into private hands, like Nebraska, or North Dakota, by homesteading or purchase. . . . , and about Second Amendment gun rights. So there's little Mia, right in the mix, talking just like that. . . .

I told my wife I wasn't sure she even knew what the Constitution was, or where that land was that was supposed to be homesteaded, or how the Saratoga Springs hunting ordinance might not really line up with the gun talk.

I realize I was quite charmed, maybe dazzled even, with the moment myself, but what I was forced to resort to in defense of our budget just looks like the plain fact now.

The little grain that has stirred my senses and produced this pearl was her statement that she has a real chance to defeat Matheson, because she has Mitt's son's endorsement.

Saying you're a defender of the Constitution while being dazzled by a family member of a moron who sees no problem with the NDAA or HSA, particularly being unconscious to the fact that the RINO elites today are the same breed that brought down our economy four years ago, just says volumes.
 
Well, Mia pulled the big upset. I wasn't there so I just got the story from my sister in law who was a delegate. She fought hard to keep Hatch from getting his "Advance to the General Election" card, but since she's from elsewhere in the state she wasn't involved in the Mia vote.

She's going to get a lot of the press going against her experience, and plenty of coverage for her gaffes along the way. Romney republicans will all vote for her, so will the tea party folks, and a few democrats too. Matheson, like Hatch, will be playing the cool hand, experience and effectiveness over blind zeal and ideology.

I told my wife Mia will lose to Matheson because she's a ditz, and won't be able to hide it. Wifey said the Republicans will all stand by her.
 
Well, Mia pulled the big upset. I wasn't there so I just got the story from my sister in law who was a delegate. She fought hard to keep Hatch from getting his "Advance to the General Election" card, but since she's from elsewhere in the state she wasn't involved in the Mia vote.

She's going to get a lot of the press going against her experience, and plenty of coverage for her gaffes along the way. Romney republicans will all vote for her, so will the tea party folks, and a few democrats too. Matheson, like Hatch, will be playing the cool hand, experience and effectiveness over blind zeal and ideology.

I told my wife Mia will lose to Matheson because she's a ditz, and won't be able to hide it. Wifey said the Republicans will all stand by her.

Your wife is going to win this one.
 
Your wife is going to win this one.

So be it. I'll win in the end, when Mia has become the poster girl for dumb republicans, perhaps rivaling Sarah Palin, who will make it laughable to even try to claim "intelligent" and "conservative" are not oxymoronic.

My point is WE are the losers when stupid politicians try to stand up for good principles they can't comprehend, or apply. And that result is worse than two more years of Matheson, who though a worse idiot himself than Mia can possibly be, at least has good coaching behind the scenes, and a media establishment that just won't tell anyone how stupid he is, because at least THEY aren't willing to just look stupid.
 
Mia will be speaking at the convention.

So, the whole country is going to see how good some speechwriters are?

I hope they assign her some of the best. Mitt can get by with his mistakes, it helps him look like an ordinary person, and as long as he can smile and realize soon enough to say "I make mistakes", it's all good.

Mia will have to just sound smart. Being a black and a Mormon raises that "stupid" question in a lot of minds. . . .

Mitt and Matheson have the same kind of genteel charm that comes from just being rich and stupid.
 
Wow this never ceases to amaze me. She was opposed to the Obama stimulus yet she took money. Hmmmmm she raised taxes. And her town has had fires and who bailed her out...Ya, that is right that d$@# socialist government.

https://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile2/54675505-218/campaign-constituents-district-love.html.csp

https://www.standard.net/stories/2012/08/15/price-tag-fighting-utah-wildfires-50m



Of course she took the money, who wouldn't when the Federal Reserve keeps downgrading our standard of living?
That's ****ty if she raised taxes, but then again at least state taxes are constitutional.

Yeah I know...... none of us would be able to survive without Homeland Security, FEMA, the Department of Education, and the IRS.
 
Wow this never ceases to amaze me. She was opposed to the Obama stimulus yet she took money. Hmmmmm she raised taxes. And her town has had fires and who bailed her out...Ya, that is right that d$@# socialist government.

https://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile2/54675505-218/campaign-constituents-district-love.html.csp

https://www.standard.net/stories/2012/08/15/price-tag-fighting-utah-wildfires-50m

You realize that paying into the federal government isn't optional, right? So those who don't support all the money they are forced to pay are also supposed to refuse the benefits they paid for?

Try again. This is weak.
 
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