God Deniers

[MVP]

I asked first, and I have a sneaking suspicion you are trying to shift the focus away from your own crazy beliefs.

See, I do not call your beliefs crazy. You can believe what you want. Fact is - there were numerous life forms who got extinct and new life forms discovered just in last few hundred years. See it through millions of years. There were no humans when dinosaurs roamed the Earth. There are no dinosaurs now. There will be no humans or life on Earth at some point as well. Sun will follow inevitable way of other stars and will turn into red giant in few billions of years. Earth and everything on it will burn. So is it going to be an accident or gods work?
Now please answer my questions.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

You clearly don't understand how this works. YOU are asserting the existence of God, thus YOU bear the burden of proof. Those making affirmative assertions bear the burden of proof, not those skeptical of them.

No, you have not offered any OBJECTIVELY VERIFIABLE evidence of God. You have merely made arguments but offered no evidence that can be objectively and independently verified.

Your approach is akin to me asserting that Bigfoot exists, and then demanding from you and everyone else to prove he doesn't, and absent that proof, declare myself the winner.

Plus surely you must realize that no one can 'prove' that God doesn't exist, just like you cannot prove that Mitt Romney isn't actually an alien transplanted to earth as part of a diabolical plot to take over the planet.

Furthermore, Atheism makes no affirmative assertion. It merely claims the lack of evidence for God. Provide the evidence, then we can talk more.

Now, we are both in the dark. If you go down to it everyone is an agnostic. No one knows whether or not god exists. We are both chained in a cave. All we are able to see is a bunch of 2-d shadowing figures on a wall. You can say all you want that only black and white (or in this case black and brown) are the only two colors in existence and that we live in a 2d world. This doesn't mean there is not a fire behind us. I don't believe in bigfoot, I believe in the fire behind us to see what we perceive.

I provided mountains of evidence on my https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...-Muslim-is-rational&highlight=muslim+rational thread and I have refuted all claims made by those who cover the truth.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

there are a lot of good arguments against creationism but the first one i usually go to is "yo shut the **** up"

From Bill Nye's twitter
https://twitter.com/Bill_Nye_tho

 

[Siro]

From Bill Nye's twitter
https://twitter.com/Bill_Nye_tho

Only one worth saying. Too bad I rep'd you not long ago.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

I love how you guys jerk off for a scientist who doesn't even have a phd. I mean he probably knows his science and all but I prefer people like William D Phillips, or Werner Heisenberg who not only have phd's but also have Noble Prizes (both also believe in god) over someone who does shows on PBS about science for kids (not to take away from his success).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I love how you guys jerk off for a scientist who doesn't even have a phd. I mean he probably knows his science and all but I prefer people like William D Phillips, or Werner Heisenberg who not only have phd's but also have Noble Prizes (both also believe in god) over someone who does shows on PBS about science for kids (not to take away from his success).

Dude, I just posted a twitter account to a Bill Nye spoof account. Calm down.

Unless you really think Bill Nye says this on twitter

u ever watch a spider build a web and ur like damn and i cant even build a desk from IKEA

 

[MVP]

I provided mountains of evidence on my https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...-Muslim-is-rational&highlight=muslim+rational thread and I have refuted all claims made by those who cover the truth.

You provided no evidence, but speculations and beliefs which are not supported by any evidence.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

You provided no evidence, but speculations and beliefs which are not supported by any evidence.

Quran 6:25

And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."

 

[One Brow]

Like I said I don't know how you determine that, or why it matters.

As I said, if youcare to read up on what Jefferson acutally said, it's pretty clear he doesn't believe in the Christian God.

It only matters when some people claim the founders were Christians who intended a Christian country.

 

[One Brow]

Kind of like how you created yourself.

While I appreciate you saying I am your whole universe, it just isn't true.

 

[Siro]

I'm looking for someone who's lying on the internet about being a medical student while possessing the writing the skills of a medieval peasant. Can anyone help me out?

 

[Gameface]

I'm looking for someone who's lying on the internet about being a medical student while possessing the writing the skills of a medieval peasant. Can anyone help me out?

If he was a snake he'd bite you.

 

[PearlWatson]

As I said, if youcare to read up on what Jefferson acutally said, it's pretty clear he doesn't believe in the Christian God.

It only matters when some people claim the founders were Christians who intended a Christian country.

If you say so.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

I'm looking for someone who's lying on the internet about being a medical student while possessing the writing the skills of a medieval peasant. Can anyone help me out?

I'm looking for someone who is a failure at life and the only powertrip he gets is when he neg reps people on jazz fanz, is wrong about god as he gets completely dismantled in argument, claims others to be liers after he can't think of anything else to say except for saying they have bad writing skills, and is clearly inferior in intellect to me.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

If you say so.

Yeah, I'd say it's pretty clear now.

 

[PearlWatson]

See, I do not call your beliefs crazy. You can believe what you want. Fact is - there were numerous life forms who got extinct and new life forms discovered just in last few hundred years. See it through millions of years. There were no humans when dinosaurs roamed the Earth. There are no dinosaurs now. There will be no humans or life on Earth at some point as well. Sun will follow inevitable way of other stars and will turn into red giant in few billions of years. Earth and everything on it will burn. So is it going to be an accident or gods work?
Now please answer my questions.

You say life is an accident.
I say life ain't an accident.
I see life as evidence of God.
You see life as evidence of an accident.
We are both happy with our beliefs, and ain't going to change each other's minds so no need to try.
I like and respect you despite how wrong you are.

 

[unluckyseventeen]

Isn't this a pointless debate? Nobody actually knows anything. Nobody should pretend as if they know more than somebody else on a topic that is literally impossible to research.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I can't think of anything more arrogant than the idea that the creator of all existence is a human, and that we are his super special creation. In fact, that all of creation is here for us. That's the funny thing about the initial quote and this debate.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Why must everything exist for the purpose of US and not just exist? Sounds like something dreamt up by a kid to explain everything.

 

[PearlWatson]

Interesting US State Mottos

Arizona: Diat Deus ("God enriches")
Colorado: Nil sine numine ("Nothing without God")
Florida: In God we trust
Kentucky: Deo Gratiam Habeamus ("Let Us Be Grateful to God")
Ohio: With God all things are possible
South Dakota: Under God the People rule