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Hayward: the new CJ!

Deja vu -- watching Gordon brick wide-open shots; screaming at TV. GH = CJ.

Good hell really!!! Shut the hell up. Check with me next time before you speak!

Hayward is the best passer on the team, highest BB IQ, gets to the foul line more then anyone, and great defender. There is no way he = CJ. If I've said it once I've said it a 1,000 times the jazz are using him wrong. He should have the ball in his hands to run the offense not spotting up. If Ty would do this he would shoot less spot up and more off the dribble, and more slash and pass or shoot situations. Hayward seems to be a better shooter off the dribble then when spotting up, then Mo would be able to concentrate more on shooting and scoring while also taking some of the pressure off of Hayward.
 
Good hell really!!! Shut the hell up. Check with me next time before you speak!
Hayward is the best passer on the team, highest BB IQ, gets to the foul line more then anyone, and great defender. There is no way he = CJ. If I've said it once I've said it a 1,000 times the jazz are using him wrong. He should have the ball in his hands to run the offense not spotting up. If Ty would do this he would shoot less spot up and more off the dribble, and more slash and pass or shoot situations. Hayward seems to be a better shooter off the dribble then when spotting up, then Mo would be able to concentrate more on shooting and scoring while also taking some of the pressure off of Hayward.

Ohhhhh BOOM BITCHES!!
 
One of two things needs to happen, Hayward needs to come of the Bench or Favors needs to start. Hayward and Favors play so well with each other, they run the pick in roll very well and just compliment each other.
 
One of two things needs to happen, Hayward needs to come of the Bench or Favors needs to start. Hayward and Favors play so well with each other, they run the pick in roll very well and just compliment each other.

Agreed, providing they can each play 25 + minutes I would love to have them come off the bench together.
 
Hayward lacks aggressiveness. Change that and there is no longer an argument.

Not sure why you think he lacks aggressiveness, he has gotten to the ft line more than anyone on the team. He goes harder to the hoop then anyone on the team! The problem is he is used primarily as a spot up guy, and that's just not his strength. He needs the ball in hand like a Kobe or DWade, not saying he's a scorer like them, but this is a guy who used to play pg. He's the best passer on the team. He's a lot like Stockton in that he's not flashy never tries anything risky other then the correct plays. Time after time I see guys like Mo, Tinsley, and others trying these crazy stupid passes that just leave you saying "what the hell was that" as the other team is fast breaking, and getting 2 points at the other end.
 
Not sure why you think he lacks aggressiveness, he has gotten to the ft line more than anyone on the team. He goes harder to the hoop then anyone on the team! The problem is he is used primarily as a spot up guy, and that's just not his strength. He needs the ball in hand like a Kobe or DWade, not saying he's a scorer like them, but this is a guy who used to play pg. He's the best passer on the team. He's a lot like Stockton in that he's not flashy never tries anything risky other then the correct plays. Time after time I see guys like Mo, Tinsley, and others trying these crazy stupid passes that just leave you saying "what the hell was that" as the other team is fast breaking, and getting 2 points at the other end.

Haydizzle is 2nd at getting to the line behind Sap. He is good at that though. He shoots 49% on his 2pt shots which is much better than Jeff's 44%.
He is sucking though in his 3pt % at 28%. His rebounding is low and his assists should be higher, but I like his defense and his steals and blocks. He is not consistent yet, but I think so far he is better than last year. He is taking more shots this year, and as soon as he settles down we should see his %'s go back up to close to 48 and 37... just my opinion. He will get more calls from the ref's once his beard comes in more fully, so give him time.

I think by the end of the year he will be back up to 3 apg and get to 15 ppg to go along with close to a steal and a block and low turnovers.

Basically he still has work to do, but he is nowhere even close to CJ when it comes to chuckmanship and inconsistency.
 
Haydizzle is 2nd at getting to the line behind Sap. He is good at that though. He shoots 49% on his 2pt shots which is much better than Jeff's 44%.
He is sucking though in his 3pt % at 28%. His rebounding is low and his assists should be higher, but I like his defense and his steals and blocks. He is not consistent yet, but I think so far he is better than last year. He is taking more shots this year, and as soon as he settles down we should see his %'s go back up to close to 48 and 37... just my opinion. He will get more calls from the ref's once his beard comes in more fully, so give him time.

I think by the end of the year he will be back up to 3 apg and get to 15 ppg to go along with close to a steal and a block and low turnovers.

Basically he still has work to do, but he is nowhere even close to CJ when it comes to chuckmanship and inconsistency.

Easily could see him at 16/4/3/1/1 this season. His %s come up even a little and he's there
 
He's the best passer on the team. He's a lot like Stockton .

Please, never mention Hayward and Stockton in one sentence. That's just travesty. And no, he is not the best passer on the team, not even close. He is decent passer but nothing special.
 
Good hell really!!! Shut the hell up. Check with me next time before you speak!

Hayward is the best passer on the team, highest BB IQ, gets to the foul line more then anyone, and great defender

Yeah and you said he is going to average 20pts a game last year. ^Wrong, ^wrong, ^wrong, ^wrong.
 
Please, never mention Hayward and Stockton in one sentence. That's just travesty. And no, he is not the best passer on the team, not even close. He is decent passer but nothing special.

Who is the best passer on the team? AK?
 
Haydizzle is 2nd at getting to the line behind Sap. He is good at that though. He shoots 49% on his 2pt shots which is much better than Jeff's 44%.
He is sucking though in his 3pt % at 28%. His rebounding is low and his assists should be higher, but I like his defense and his steals and blocks. He is not consistent yet, but I think so far he is better than last year. He is taking more shots this year, and as soon as he settles down we should see his %'s go back up to close to 48 and 37... just my opinion. He will get more calls from the ref's once his beard comes in more fully, so give him time.

I think by the end of the year he will be back up to 3 apg and get to 15 ppg to go along with close to a steal and a block and low turnovers.

Basically he still has work to do, but he is nowhere even close to CJ when it comes to chuckmanship and inconsistency.

you are absolutely correct, Hayward is way more consistent. he didn't have an out side shot the first half of last season and he doesn't have one now - super consistent, i wish he was less consistent.
 
Yo no era feliz en la noche del draft cuando Hayward fue seleccionado. Sin embargo, me pareció que había una posibilidad de que podría convertirse en un buen jugador de la NBA si él podría desarrollar un tiro exterior. Con los entrenadores, instructores de tiro y tiempo ilimitado para centrarse en su recuperación debería haber desarrollado una mejor oportunidad por ahora. No es como si aún se encuentra en Butler, con la tarea de que preocuparse.
 
I really like Gordon Hayward. Jazz made a good pick.

And how ridiculous of a statement to make. Hayward>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CJ
 
you are absolutely correct, Hayward is way more consistent. he didn't have an out side shot the first half of last season and he doesn't have one now - super consistent, i wish he was less consistent.

Don't we all wish he was shooting 40% from 3 pt land?

Would you rather have CJ's 21% back in all his glory? I still think Hayward is more consistent of a player and he actually makes the team better. If you want to gripe about his sucky 3pt%, go ahead.
 
Who is the best passer on the team? AK?

Both Mo and Tinsley are better passers. I would add Watson to that list as well. And since you mentioned AK, even if he is not on the Jazz but yes, he is better passer then Hayward as well. I repeat again, Hayward is decent passer, nothing special though. I wish people would accept him for who he is ( a decent rotation/role player ) instead of trying to make him look like superstar/franchise type player.
 
Both Mo and Tinsley are better passers. I would add Watson to that list as well. And since you mentioned AK, even if he is not on the Jazz but yes, he is better passer then Hayward as well. I repeat again, Hayward is decent passer, nothing special though. I wish people would accept him for who he is ( a decent rotation/role player ) instead of trying to make him look like superstar/franchise type player.

Have you not seen the beard? I can't believe you would post such nonsense against The Beard!! Harden will soon bow to his beardliness!
 
Hayward is a smart player. His movement is efficient on defense and he's become a good defensive player. He's also a decent rebounder. On offense, he's been developing a drive-and-kick game, and he usually makes the right pass. He's not the best spot-up shooter, but that should improve if he keeps working on it. CJ was basically a spot-up shooter with a flakey stroke.
 
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