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Jazz vs Nuggets @ Pepsi Center (1.5.13) at 7:00 PM Mountain Time / Telecast on ROOTSPORTS

Andre Miller had 18 pts and 11 free-throw attempts. I'm not sure how that happened, but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't have happened. He was playing as an undersized, 36 year-old SG half the time.
 
Could this season be any worse? We're completely mediocre, likely #13 pick. Golden State is killing it, our pick from them #23 or something close. All of our minutes are going to vets who won't be on our team next year. Our coach is exposed as an idiot. Man I'm depressed
 
orangello said:
So Favors has one really awful night and suddenly he sucks? Look at everyone's numbers. They all sucked.

I wish I could say it was just a bad night but they always seem to have a bad night in Denver. It doesn't help that they play in Denver on the second night of a back-to-back. Everyone's struggles with that.
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Never said he sucks. I said he's not a smart/skilled offensive player (hence his 45% shooting this year), and to be frank, he does not rebound the ball with energy quite often for his size. He has two main tendencies as an offensive player: 1) he puts his head down and charges (often out of control) while paradoxically finishing soft around the rim 2) he floats along not asserting himself or contributing to the offense with solid screens, crisp passes, assists, cuts, and activity in general.

I've become convinced that he will never be a dominating offensive player, so the most we can hope for is dominance defensively, 11 plus rebounds a game, and 12-16 points per game on 50% shooting or more.

I'm hoping that Hayward and Kanter improve enough offensively to make our team good enough offensively in the future to contend.
 
Oh and to complain somewhat, the refs called the game as if the Nuggets were not allowed to be touched at all particularly in the second half.
 
JJAS said:
Never said he sucks. I said he's not a smart/skilled offensive player (hence his 45% shooting this year), and to be frank, he does not rebound the ball with energy quite often for his size. He has two main characteristics as an offensive player: 1) he puts his head down and charges (often out of control) while paradoxically finishing soft around the rim 2) he floats along not asserting himself or contributing to the offense with solid screens, crisp passes, assists, cuts, and activity in general.

I've become convinced that he will never be a dominating offensive player, so the most we can hope for is dominance defensively, 11 plus rebounds a game, and 12-16 points per game on 50% shooting or more.

I'm hoping that Hayward and Kanter improve enough offensively to make our team good enough offensively in the future to contend.
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I agree with this. I think Kanter can be close to a 20-pt. scorer though.
 
Catchall said:
The Jazz need to add quickness. We come across a bit slow at several positions. Kanter has decent quickness for a PF/C. Favors is okay. Al is slow. Hayward isn't super quick. Even Millsap is slow when he isn't playing hard. Marvin is limited offensively. Both of our re-tread PGs are slow.

If the Jazz could add skill and quickness at the PG and the wing, that would help tremendously.

We need a couple guys who can get a step to break down defenses.
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I have a proposed trade for Brandon Knight point guard for the Pistons, if your interested in seeing it. Knight's stats don't look all that great, but he is the point guard on a really crappy team. I know some of us were high on him going into the Kantor/Burks draft. It would give us a young point guard to go with our young core.
 
Catchall said:
The Jazz need to add quickness. We come across a bit slow at several positions. Kanter has decent quickness for a PF/C. Favors is okay. Al is slow. Hayward isn't super quick. Even Millsap is slow when he isn't playing hard. Marvin is limited offensively. Both of our re-tread PGs are slow.

If the Jazz could add skill and quickness at the PG and the wing, that would help tremendously.

We need a couple guys who can get a step to break down defenses.
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Quickness would be nice, but that wasn't the problem tonight.

Iggy schooled Burks repeatedly, but that's more experience than quickness.
Corbin thought it would be fun to see how Foye could fare against 6'6" Iguodala.
Gallinari was scoring at will--without much resistance (although at least a couple of Carroll's 6 fouls were on Gallinari).
Jazz looked clueless out there--and their 36% shooting reflected it.
 
JJAS said:
Never said he sucks. I said he's not a smart/skilled offensive player (hence his 45% shooting this year), and to be frank, he does not rebound the ball with energy quite often for his size. He has two main tendencies as an offensive player: 1) he puts his head down and charges (often out of control) while paradoxically finishing soft around the rim 2) he floats along not asserting himself or contributing to the offense with solid screens, crisp passes, assists, cuts, and activity in general.

I've become convinced that he will never be a dominating offensive player, so the most we can hope for is dominance defensively, 11 plus rebounds a game, and 12-16 points per game on 50% shooting or more.

I'm hoping that Hayward and Kanter improve enough offensively to make our team good enough offensively in the future to contend.
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If Kanter masters contested shots, he will have a Malone kind of mid range skill and he will be a force to be reckoned with on the offensive end.
 
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