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Explain the Monroe Love

MrBlue said:
Everyone is high on him (AROUND THE LEAGUE NOT JUST THE JAZZ) because it is EXTREMELY rare to see a guy that big that has passing, shooting, dribbling skills that this guy has. Like others have said that makes him a commodity especially in a draft as weak as this one is.

He is Chris Webber like with his passing. This is why Locke thinks he would rack up Triple Doubles in the Jazz's offense.
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We don't need bigs that can pass well. We need bigs that can block shots, play hard, and score inside, which are all Monroe's weaknesses. How many times have we seen player ### touted as having size and skills yet lack passion who completely crash and burn in this league? Too many to count...

The Jazz don't need any more soft, skilled, bigmen who don't want to rough it up inside, stand around on defense, and who would rather eat donuts or read books than kick ***.

I would much rather see us roll the dice on Aldrich or Whiteside, players who could help shore up our weaknesses than add upon the heap of passionless and defensive challenged bigmen we currently have.
 
Monroe also understands the pick and roll game and would fit into the Jazz's offense seamlessly. His overall skill level is quite rare and I believe he is still a work in progress (his jumper should improve, his defensive positioning should improve, and his FT% should improve).

I watched quite a few of his games and I've been salivating over the Jazz drafting him since late into his freshman season.

Qman- if your sole quest is to beat the Lakers in the playoffs, you may not even get far enough to play the Lakers (if you start building a team only for that purpose). Not saying we don't have needs to address, but with the #9 pick in the draft- its difficult to pull a rabbit out of your hat and get a guy that has the length, athleticism, and overall game to overtake the Lakers.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
You still have to draft best player not JUST need and then adjust (or try to adjust) the roster accordingly
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We will need to wait to see if Monroe truly is the best player available. His lack of passion already should be a warning flag to buyers everywhere. Again, how many big and skilled players who lack passion have busted? Plenty.
 
The Thriller said:
Because David Locke and the rest of 1320 praise him constantly.

He also seems like a classy guy.

I personally think Monroe is going to suck in the NBA. The Jazz should perhaps consider trading down for 2 draft picks if Monroe truly is the best player available at #9.

Monroe reminds me a lot of Jared Jeffries, and we all know how terrible he's been.
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Mareese Speights with a penchant for passing and without the aggression. I keep saying that, I think.
 
The Thriller said:
Because David Locke and the rest of 1320 praise him constantly.
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I was just about to mention this...Locke's probably influenced some people's opinion of him. If you haven't heard Locke talk about Monroe, check out his scouting report on him: https://www.nba.com/jazz/features/scouting_gregmonroe.html. He's definitely overestimating him...his best case scenario is Bogut, but he will NEVER be the defensive force Bogut is. Not even close in a best case scenario. I think Locke's worst case scenario (Spencer Hawes) should be his likely scenario.

Funny thing is...Locke is scouting the best games of Monroe's career, the Big East tournament from this past year. No wonder why he has such an inflated opinion of him.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
You still have to draft best player not JUST need and then adjust (or try to adjust) the roster accordingly
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I completely disagree with this. When not picking in the top 3-5 picks (when picking a potential franchise player), it should almost always be about need first and foremost. There's not enough depth in almost any draft to be basing your team around the 9th pick in the draft. If you are, you are in for a LONG rebuilding process. Especially on a team established with a core in place such as the Jazz do. Draft a player that fills a need and is able to contribute right away, not on a hypothetical that this may be the most talented player available. Monroe isn't good enough to reshape a roster around him. We're not talking about John Wall here...
 
No, you still draft BPA, unless you are unreasonably stacked at that position. Obviously we wont draft a PG, even if there was a pretty one available, but we still need a backup PF/C, and we should go for the most complete and best one available. With Boozer out, we lose a ton of offense, and Monroe would help out a lot offensively.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
No, you still draft BPA, unless you are unreasonably stacked at that position. Obviously we wont draft a PG, even if there was a pretty one available, but we still need a backup PF/C, and we should go for the most complete and best one available. With Boozer out, we lose a ton of offense, and Monroe would help out a lot offensively.
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Even if that player doesn't fit as well as another that's on the board? I'm not a believer in talent being the lone piece of criteria to evaluate a prospect. If we were the Wizards? Yes, pick the BPA because they have holes everywhere. The Jazz? No, pick a player that fills weaknesses, fits a team's mentality and what they are trying to do, and improves the team as a whole. Yes, even if the player is a little less talented overall. Monroe being above and beyond more talented than any other realistic Jazz prospect in this draft is debatable regardless.
 
Monroe will not be there at #9. He's going to go higher than that.

No projects please (aka "Big upside" players). The Jazz cannot afford to miss on this pick. Monroe would be a good no-miss pick. That's why he's coveted by the teams ahead of us.
 
Well our holes are at the "Big Man" position. So yeah, take the best big man available talent wise. Plus Monroe is one of the more developed big men, so its not like he is just a "talent".
 
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