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cowhide said:
Just got done watch Nate Wolters and I came away impressed. I certainly would take him over the Syracuse kid. I would definitely use the GS pick on him if Burke isn't available.

The kid has deceptive quickness, he knows how to play the game. I was worried about his athleticism and ability to guard smaller guards but I am not worried anymore. If the JackRabbits make any kind of run I think he will move up in the draft. What I also like is he isn't shoot first guy, he is looking to set up his team. He was able to get to the hoop and finish. There is no way this kid is there for the Jazz second round pick. He reminded me a little bit of Dragic.
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I saw a great college player. Slow down.
 
nothingbutnet said:
Gobert is 9th on DX, 19th on ESPN, and 23rd on nbadraft.net.
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Yeah, that just shows you the Euro-centric nature of Givony and DX. I guarantee you Chad Ford does little overseas scouting. I have no idea who runs nbadarft, but I usually find their projections awful.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, that just shows you the Euro-centric nature of Givony and DX. I guarantee you Chad Ford does little overseas scouting. I have no idea who runs nbadarft, but I usually find their projections awful.
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This. I also am careful with Givony on euros. He prides himself on scouting more/knowing more than anyone else and I see him inflate guys (probably unintentionally). I think his ego, to a degree, makes him want to 'discover' these guys.. know what I mean?
 
NUMBERICA said:
I saw a great college player. Slow down.
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Yeah, it's really tough to project these mid-major PG's who dominate the ball and have success. It's easy to get caught up in what he does well in college, but what will happen when he has a 24 seconds shot clock and he can't spend 25 seconds per possessions running consecutive pick n' rolls?
 
Giannis Adetokunbo at the Greek All-Star game he finished with 8 points and 3 rebounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE-ymqgZPFY&feature=player_embedded
 
PKM said:
This. I also am careful with Givony on euros. He prides himself on scouting more/knowing more than anyone else and I see him inflate guys (probably unintentionally). I think his ego, to a degree, makes him want to 'discover' these guys.. know what I mean?
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Most definitely true. I think he is usually relatively honest in his write-ups though. I don't think he over hypes anyone in terms of their skills, maybe just in their draft projection. Though I'm pretty sure DX has the most accurate lottery projections year in and year out, no?
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, that just shows you the Euro-centric nature of Givony and DX. I guarantee you Chad Ford does little overseas scouting. I have no idea who runs nbadarft, but I usually find their projections awful.
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NBAdarft is a joke. It's like if Nickkkkk started his own draft site.

Anyway, for whatever it's worth, he had Valanciunas #2 on his big board in 2011 for most of the year while most people were mystified that he was that high and ended up getting drafted 5th. The guy knows better than most, and a 7' 1" player with a 7' 9" wingspan is tantalizing almost irrespective of anything else. And on that note, WCS is older and doesn't have a great wingspan relative to his height if his current measurement is accurate. What really matters is what the final mock is and what the draft results are.
 
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