Kirelenko in Trade talks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Siro]

So do I.

That's cool. When I was your age I wanted to be an astronaut.

 

[David Stern]

I'm going on record to guess that this trade is dead at the moment.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Even though this trade appears to be dying fast, this is a ****** way to come into training camp.

Hopefully AK isn't phased by this, or if he is, it's a motivating factor.

 

[The Midnight]

Throwing around some trade ideas around

Jazz get: Anderson Varejao & Anthony Parker
Nuggets get: AK & Noah
Bulls get: Melo & Birdman
Cavs get: Luol Deng

I know Bulls said they wouldn't trade Noah for Melo but adding in Birdman I would think would help since they would still have a presence next to Boozer on defense.

It saves a lot of money still but gives us more talent.

D-Will - Watson - Price
Bell - Parker - Thompson
Miles - Hayward - Evans
Millsap - Varejao - Elson
Jefferson - Varejao - Elson - Okur

After trade team offers Fesenko a 2 Million a year deal and we let him go.

OR

Jazz get: Kirk Hinrich
Nuggets get: AK & Noah
Bulls get: Melo & Birdman
Wizards get: Luol Deng

Save as much as the Diaw trade.

D-Will - Hinrich - Watson
Bell - Hinrich - Thompson
Miles - Hayward - Evans
Millsap - Elson
Jefferson - Fesenko - Okur

Meh... to both trades..

Trade 1:
- Don't think Noah and AK are enough for Denver (don't think Noah has enough upside compared to Favors)
- Why would Cavs want Deng? They already have Jamison..

Trade 2:
- Again, don't think Noah and AK are enough for Denver (don't think Noah has enough upside compared to Favors)

Note: would be happy with either Varejao or Hinrich though..

 

[Twin Towers]

Meh... to both trades..

Trade 1:
- Don't think Noah and AK are enough for Denver (don't think Noah has enough upside compared to Favors)
- Why would Cavs want Deng? They already have Jamison..

Trade 2:
- Again, don't think Noah and AK are enough for Denver (don't think Noah has enough upside compared to Favors)

Note: would be happy with either Varejao or Hinrich though..

It doesn't matter if Favors has more upside than Noah. If Melo won't sign an extension with New Jersey than Nuggets don't have much of an option.

Jamison is a PF. Deng is a SF. Shouldn't go into the decision process. Plays a different position. And they can't move Jamison to SF. Hasn't played there in 5 years or so. Too slow to guard SF's.

 

[cowhide]

Even though this trade appears to be dying fast, this is a ****** way to come into training camp.

Hopefully AK isn't phased by this, or if he is, it's a motivating factor.

You mean this is all the Jazz had to do to get AK motivated. I agree if the deal does not go down perhaps AK will feel "funny" but I would hope that AK was already to get to work before this happened.

 

[UGLI baby]

Hopefully AK isn't phased by this, or if he is, it's a motivating factor.

AK has proved his mental toughness in the past.

I dont think petty stuff like this even phases him.

 

[The Midnight]

It doesn't matter if Favors has more upside than Noah. If Melo won't sign an extension with New Jersey than Nuggets don't have much of an option.

Jamison is a PF. Deng is a SF. Shouldn't go into the decision process. Plays a different position. And they can't move Jamison to SF. Hasn't played there in 5 years or so. Too slow to guard SF's.

Don't know Melo personally but indications are that he's more inclined to go back to the New York area... don't think he's ever been interested in signing an extension with Chicago?

Jamison - my bad - haven't been following the Wizards for the past 5 years... LOL

 

[calijazz]

Don't know Melo personally but indications are that he's more inclined to go back to the New York area... don't think he's ever been interested in signing an extension with Chicago?

Jamison - my bad - haven't been following the Wizards for the past 5 years... LOL

Multiple reports have said the Knicks and Bulls are his top choices, for what it's worth. This whole discussion is moot regardless because the Bulls refuse to trade Noah, even in a deal for Carmelo. If the Bulls were, that trade would probably already be done.

 

[prodigy]

I think Ak has been well aware of his contract situation the past several years with the jazz and knowing he could be traded any second. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

Geez, you are overrating AK. He was an All-star one year and that was five years ago. The young AK does not exist anymore except in your mind. AK got his big contract and stopped improving. Besides his ability to stay healthy is well documented and should be enough to get him traded.

Haha no, I'm just calling Diaw what he is. Weak.
I'm sick of weak defenders on this team ala Boozer.
Upgrade the defense with Jefferson and Bell, then completely downgrade by replacing AK with Diaw???

It's a weak deal, and would do nothing then show the weakness of this franchise to never go for the gold.

 

[Zerol]

Even if the trade is dead, the takeaway from this is that the Jazz FO is willing to trade AK, as opposed to the original assumption that the team will hold on to him until his contract expires.

I think better offers can come up, as teams believe that AK will be able to perform much better if he is not on the Jazz which plays a structured offense (to be honest with you, i will pick him much higher in a fantasy draft if he is traded to Denver or other teams like the Warriors or the Suns or the Knicks). Say if the Clippers still play as crappy as they did last season, they can look to trade away Kaman to save money. Or if Cousins turns out to be a stud, Dalembert can be expendable. Or if the Warriors wants to give Lee more playing time and still run the same style, they can trade us Biedrins and Radmanovic for AK. These won't save the Jazz as much money as the rumored deal would, but still everyone of these will save several million dollars and give us better chance for us to win a championship than Diaw.