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Philosophers that interest you, and why (Jazzfanz Philosophy Thread)

Aristotle, Plato, Soctrates, Godel, Kant, Descartes, Wittgenstein, Locke, Frege, Leibniz, Kindi, Farabi, Haytham, Sina, Ghazali (NDT doesn't know **** about him and misrepresents him), Tufail, Rushd, Arabi, Tusi, Khaldun, Iqbal, and Swinburne

All these guys are my favorite philosophers and have played a huge impact on my philosophy including theism and morality, Kant is probably my favorite for morality.
 
I already explained that you misunderstood my opinion on Hume. But I'm not going to stand in the way of you crying about it, if you insist. Secondly, you edited Nietzsche into your response after my question. So no it wasn't clear.

Either way, I have no interest in this petty argument. I'm sure you'll find someone else who likes a different set of thinkers. Lash out on them.

My petty-ness is a mirror to the modernist stride you took into a discussion about who inspires you -- dropping names of masters while dismissing large tracts of their thought.
 
Taking Philosophy seriously is like jumping into a cesspool filled with gators.

too much work. . . . . no good food. . . .. and you just get sucked in with the crap and all. . . .

oh well, maybe another day. . . ..

you guys seem pretty impressive. be nice.
 
Cornel West

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7EU0-mjw5M


OK, so I like this guy. He could be my model of where philosophy fails, for all the effort expended. Most folks don't have the time or inclination to bother this much with philosophy. Some who somehow can do this end up chattering from the back seat while someone else does the driving. Figuratively. For their entire lives.

I like the philosophy of a plains Indian on his horse, or the cowboy punching cows up to the railroad stockyards, or the farmer with the shovel or the plow. Maybe the pilot looking up at the sky trying to figure the flight path, or the housewife with a grow box planting tomatos.

but most of all two kids casting off on the sea of love. . . .

where's the glory of Philosophy? You just gotta find joy in your life in the daily flow of things.

I like Dostoyevsky, but I don't think Russian serfs have the monopoly on grounded wisdom or even endurance. Lifting them out of their slavery under the Czars, only to throw them under the bus of Statism, didn't bless them. Can't find any goodness in the sophistry of Marx, no truth. People have to find their own stars to guide them to their own joys.

I like the Apostle Paul, but I don't think suffering is a worthwhile end in itself, though it seems to shape people sometimes in ways that can be truly awesome. . . .

I like this guy when he says people need the courage to have hope, to have joy, to have their own way, to have their own "faith", to be different as they may choose.

But who was the philosopher who said it all. .. . .

Live Free, or Die trying.
 
OK, so I like this guy. He could be my model of where philosophy fails, for all the effort expended. Most folks don't have the time or inclination to bother this much with philosophy. Some who somehow can do this end up chattering from the back seat while someone else does the driving. Figuratively. For their entire lives.

I like the philosophy of a plains Indian on his horse, or the cowboy punching cows up to the railroad stockyards, or the farmer with the shovel or the plow. Maybe the pilot looking up at the sky trying to figure the flight path, or the housewife with a grow box planting tomatos.

but most of all two kids casting off on the sea of love. . . .


where's the glory of Philosophy? You just gotta find joy in your life in the daily flow of things.

I like Dostoyevsky, but I don't think Russian serfs have the monopoly on grounded wisdom or even endurance. Lifting them out of their slavery under the Czars, only to throw them under the bus of Statism, didn't bless them. Can't find any goodness in the sophistry of Marx, no truth. People have to find their own stars to guide them to their own joys.

I like the Apostle Paul, but I don't think suffering is a worthwhile end in itself, though it seems to shape people sometimes in ways that can be truly awesome. . . .

I like this guy when he says people need the courage to have hope, to have joy, to have their own way, to have their own "faith", to be different as they may choose.

But who was the philosopher who said it all. .. . .

Live Free, or Die trying.

Well there is a saying that Philosophy is like "Being in a dark room and looking for a black cat". There is some truth to that.. and what you said above may be a valid solution.

Unfortunately even if I say, to me, having a house by the sea and enjoying living there each day is the meaning of my life - it still doesn't answer the question of "Why we are here"?

I think that's when spirituality steps in... no matter how we try to reason within ourselves using what we can feel with our senses (primarily with what we can see), we have to admit there are things we can't experience physically, but nonetheless they are there, because otherwise we, or the universe itself, couldn't have existed.
 
Well, for me there's a lot. I did an MA in philosophy of religion at the University of Chicago Divinity School, and now I'm doing a PhD in Process Studies at Claremont Lincoln University, with an aim of eventually getting hired on as a university professor somewhere (bad as the job prospects are these days, especially in academia). But in any case, knowing philosophy and religion in-depth is more-or-less my job description.

First and foremost is Alfred North Whitehead. He was the father of modern process thought and Claremont is this philosophical school's Mecca. Of course this also means I admire a great deal of his followers, the most prominent of which include Charles Hartshorne, John Cobb, and David Ray Griffin. I could name many others in this tradition, of course.

Then there's the pragmatists and neo-pragmatists. William James, John Dewey, Hilary Putnam, and Richard Rorty are all awesome (although Rorty is much-maligned).

I also love Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, a Jesuit priest whose book The Phenomenon of Man got me interested enough in religion for me to want to make a career out of it in the first place.

Emile Durkheim deserves to be mentioned as well. Actually, Durkheim is more of a sociologist than a philosopher, but he fits plenty of philosophy into his sociology.

I've recently become interested in Hans-Georg Gadamer, whose book Truth and Method explores the nature of human understanding.

Judith Butler is my favorite postmodern, post-structuralist thinker.

Lastly -- and these are more theologians than philosophers -- I really appreciate the work of Ivone Gebara and Chung Hyun Kyung.

I could go into why I like each thinker, but I'd be writing all night, and it's late already.
 
Well, for me there's a lot. I did an MA in philosophy of religion at the University of Chicago Divinity School, and now I'm doing a PhD in Process Studies at Claremont Lincoln University, with an aim of eventually getting hired on as a university professor somewhere (bad as the job prospects are these days, especially in academia). But in any case, knowing philosophy and religion in-depth is more-or-less my job description.

First and foremost is Alfred North Whitehead. He was the father of modern process thought and Claremont is this philosophical school's Mecca. Of course this also means I admire a great deal of his followers, the most prominent of which include Charles Hartshorne, John Cobb, and David Ray Griffin. I could name many others in this tradition, of course.

Then there's the pragmatists and neo-pragmatists. William James, John Dewey, Hilary Putnam, and Richard Rorty are all awesome (although Rorty is much-maligned).

I also love Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, a Jesuit priest whose book The Phenomenon of Man got me interested enough in religion for me to want to make a career out of it in the first place.

Emile Durkheim deserves to be mentioned as well. Actually, Durkheim is more of a sociologist than a philosopher, but he fits plenty of philosophy into his sociology.

I've recently become interested in Hans-Georg Gadamer, whose book Truth and Method explores the nature of human understanding.

Judith Butler is my favorite postmodern, post-structuralist thinker.

Lastly -- and these are more theologians than philosophers -- I really appreciate the work of Ivone Gebara and Chung Hyun Kyung.

I could go into why I like each thinker, but I'd be writing all night, and it's late already.

maybe do that one by one, one day at a time. In month you could work through most of them. . . .
 
maybe do that one by one, one day at a time. In month you could work through most of them. . . .

Not with end-of-term papers to write! I'm actually on my last semester of coursework before moving on to quals and dissertation. Two 20-pagers due on May 8th, and another one due on the 15th.

BTW, while I'm thinking of it, I managed to worm my way onto the Whitehead Research Project, which is a part of the Center for Process Studies and is working to put together a critical edition of Whitehead, including his correspondence and his students' lecture notes. It'll be a nice thing to have on my resume. But if anyone wants to see a small crappy picture and short bio of me, it's up on the website (I'm second from the bottom among active members -- first editorial assistant). Roland Faber (at the top) is my advisor.
 
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