PearlWatson
Well-Known Member
That was a fast edit job.I liked your first answers betterMe: Behe is my darling for kicking Darwin’s theory in the ***.
You: Darwin's theory is no longer used, regardless. Instead, we have modern evolutionary theory (MET), and Behe has done nothing to discredit it.
Me: Behe concludes natural selection = intelligent design.
You: No, he does not, at any point. It's sad you didn't even take the time to understand this person you supposedly respect so much.
Me: You then provide an example involving “selection” as a refutation of Behe
You are then kicking yourself in the *** if you think that claim(ICS’s are impossible without “natural selection”) has been refuted.
You: We've seen the evolution of irreducibly complex systems even within a single lifetime (for example, the strain of bacteria that was evolved to eat a different type of sugar). Thus, Behe's claim that it can't happen is refuted by evidence.
Me: Darwin’s mechanism ...
You: I accept MET based on evidence. I have no interest in defending a 150-year-old theory.
Me: Behe says even if there were randomly generated parts lying around doing other things they have no reason to come together to do something else.
You: Things happen, for no reason, all the time.
Darwiniacs(METers) may replace the first step of Darwn’s mechanism (random mutation) with a different step, but the moment they involve “natural selection” as the final step they’ve turned their “MET” into a non-disprovable pseudoscience.
I don’t see how your bacteria eating a different type of sugar is an example of the development of a complex system. It sounds like an example of a change in a system that already existed. That is what us God-believers call adapting to one’s environment. (Darwiniacs say the environment adapts you.)
“Things” may happen for no reason. But you have to have a lot of faith to believe that individual, unrelated mutations accidentally facilitated the production of the 200 necessary parts, completely by chance, to “create” the flagellum Behe was looking at.