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Thomas Robinson is available again - Anybody interested?

Twin Towers said:
I guess it depends. T-Rob only has 3 million this coming year. They only save 2 million. Is that enough or does 3 make a difference? I have no idea or care to look the rules and Houston's salary
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If they don't pick up gracias option and do the trade they will be around 34M!!!
 
WE don't need undersized players. Jazz have Marvin and Jeremy to plug in at the 4 if they want to go small. Stop comparing this guy to Millsap. Paul had an ELITE skill coming into the NBA. He could REBOUND. Didn't he lead the nation 3 or 4 consecutive years or something like that? Robinson was drafted on athleticism and potential, similar to Marvin Williams. Marvin has at least proved he can shoot. With the 21 pick, the Jazz should shore up the wing position or perhaps draft a guy that can develop into a backup PG. Jazz need a BIG behind Kanter and Favors.
 
This is where you finally turn in your Ante Tomic pick. Locke said a while back that he heard from a few scouts that if Tomic were in this draft he would be ranked in the top 5-6 big men and top 15 in the draft. A mature talented player like that that they can stash overseas one more year and avoid the cap hold of any picks should be more than enough. I actually think that to take on Robinson who they simply depreciated his value themselves by not playing him... is their problem. We actually would be well within our right as a conference foe who is giving them the most legitimate shot at landing DHoward should not only get T Rob but pick #34 from Houston.
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They can sell it to their fans very easily... fans love GM's that swing for the fences. No one in Houston is complaining about losing Kevin Martin for one year, and two now meaningless picks to them... they have an All Star for what: A guy they weren't going to resign who is on the last legs of a career (k Martin), Lamb who won't compete (his knock in college is playing out), and the draft rights to someone in the late lottery of a terrible draft, and the maverick pick in the 20's. That is the biggest fleecing in history, and they did it in broad daylight to a team that with Harden should have dominated the west for years to come and are now left picking up the pieces.

If Daryl Morey gets D Howard and part of making that happen was dumping a PF with upside... his fanbase will forgive him in a heartbeart because he dared to dream big!

For us, if we want it Dennis Lyndsay has the roots in Houston to make this happen.

Its a good deal for us: We reestablish his value this year and flip TRob at next years draft for the pick we want to build around!

We use #34 to move up.

My plan: Do this deal and get #34... Then take on Kendrick Perkins for #12...

Draft #12 Dennis Schroeder
#14 Shabazz
#21 Dieng or Use #34 and #21 to move up with Atlanta at #17 for Dieng or Plumlee.

PG, SF, C Possible 1 - 2 starters, all three rotations guys at least.
 
blackham9258 said:
This is where you finally turn in your Ante Tomic pick. Locke said a while back that he heard from a few scouts that if Tomic were in this draft he would be ranked in the top 5-6 big men and top 15 in the draft. A mature talented player like that that they can stash overseas one more year and avoid the cap hold of any picks should be more than enough. I actually think that to take on Robinson who they simply depreciated his value themselves by not playing him... is their problem. We actually would be well within our right as a conference foe who is giving them the most legitimate shot at landing DHoward should not only get T Rob but pick #34 from Houston.
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They can sell it to their fans very easily... fans love GM's that swing for the fences. No one in Houston is complaining about losing Kevin Martin for one year, and two now meaningless picks to them... they have an All Star for what: A guy they weren't going to resign who is on the last legs of a career (k Martin), Lamb who won't compete (his knock in college is playing out), and the draft rights to someone in the late lottery of a terrible draft, and the maverick pick in the 20's. That is the biggest fleecing in history, and they did it in broad daylight to a team that with Harden should have dominated the west for years to come and are now left picking up the pieces.

If Daryl Morey gets D Howard and part of making that happen was dumping a PF with upside... his fanbase will forgive him in a heartbeart because he dared to dream big!

For us, if we want it Dennis Lyndsay has the roots in Houston to make this happen.

Its a good deal for us: We reestablish his value this year and flip TRob at next years draft for the pick we want to build around!

We use #34 to move up.

My plan: Do this deal and get #34... Then take on Kendrick Perkins for #12...

Draft #12 Dennis Schroeder
#14 Shabazz
#21 Dieng or Use #34 and #21 to move up with Atlanta at #17 for Dieng or Plumlee.

PG, SF, C Possible 1 - 2 starters, all three rotations guys at least.
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You've got some really good ideas there, but let's be honest: nobody wants Perkins on this team. That would be a complete disaster, but the Tomic idea is fairly intriguing. Maybe we have to package this and next year's 2nd rounders with him, but I'd do that in a heartbeat.
 
blackham9258 said:
This is where you finally turn in your Ante Tomic pick. Locke said a while back that he heard from a few scouts that if Tomic were in this draft he would be ranked in the top 5-6 big men and top 15 in the draft. A mature talented player like that that they can stash overseas one more year and avoid the cap hold of any picks should be more than enough. I actually think that to take on Robinson who they simply depreciated his value themselves by not playing him... is their problem. We actually would be well within our right as a conference foe who is giving them the most legitimate shot at landing DHoward should not only get T Rob but pick #34 from Houston.
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They can sell it to their fans very easily... fans love GM's that swing for the fences. No one in Houston is complaining about losing Kevin Martin for one year, and two now meaningless picks to them... they have an All Star for what: A guy they weren't going to resign who is on the last legs of a career (k Martin), Lamb who won't compete (his knock in college is playing out), and the draft rights to someone in the late lottery of a terrible draft, and the maverick pick in the 20's. That is the biggest fleecing in history, and they did it in broad daylight to a team that with Harden should have dominated the west for years to come and are now left picking up the pieces.

If Daryl Morey gets D Howard and part of making that happen was dumping a PF with upside... his fanbase will forgive him in a heartbeart because he dared to dream big!

For us, if we want it Dennis Lyndsay has the roots in Houston to make this happen.

Its a good deal for us: We reestablish his value this year and flip TRob at next years draft for the pick we want to build around!

We use #34 to move up.

My plan: Do this deal and get #34... Then take on Kendrick Perkins for #12...

Draft #12 Dennis Schroeder
#14 Shabazz
#21 Dieng or Use #34 and #21 to move up with Atlanta at #17 for Dieng or Plumlee.

PG, SF, C Possible 1 - 2 starters, all three rotations guys at least.
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Tomic > Robinson
 
PKM said:
Maybe you missed it when TRob stated, publicly, that he would prove to the world that he deserved to be picked #1 over Anthony Davis.
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I'm still waiting for the to happen. Apparently Lillard said the same thing but backed his talk up.
 
In my blatant Jimmer watching I got to see a fair bit of Thomas Robinson. He is averagely vertically explosive-more so than Millsap. He does have a good handle for his size and a nice spin move. When he got the ball on the move off a pick and roll he was effective rolling to the hoop. His midrange jumper was very inconsistent. He isn't big enough to be effective in the post against all matchups. Defensively he doesn't know how to use his mobility well yet. I see him like a more talented Millsap. But who knows if he has Millsap's work ethic.
 
Qman said:
In my blatant Jimmer watching I got to see a fair bit of Thomas Robinson. He is averagely vertically explosive-more so than Millsap. He does have a good handle for his size and a nice spin move. When he got the ball on the move off a pick and roll he was effective rolling to the hoop. His midrange jumper was very inconsistent. He isn't big enough to be effective in the post against all matchups. Defensively he doesn't know how to use his mobility well yet. I see him like a more talented Millsap. But who knows if he has Millsap's work ethic.
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That's a pretty good analysis. nice work.
 
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