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how can jazz not make the playoff?

Burke > tinsley and watson who started about 30 games.( mo williams seems better then burke for now without the hero ball)
burks > foye
hayward> marvin wiliams
Kanter > millsap from last year(millsap in alfense)
favors > jefferson(meaning better overal net effect on the game).

thats a better starting lineup than we had last year. the jazz who missed the playoff by just one game( i know basically 2 but if i'm not mistaken a win in houston would have meant jazz would have made the playoff).


so a better starting lineup by far. a worse bench(too bad carrol and sap are gone).

and cant get a net 1-3 wins extra to make the playoff.

am i to optimistic?
am i drinking the koolaid.
or am i underestimating the mythical vet power.
am i underestimating the power a weak bench will have?

ofcourse the west improved. but still shouldnt jazz be competing for a playoff spot.
 
I think the bench factor will be big. and I expect us to get off to a slow start with everyone getting used to each other and their new roles, how quickly everyone gets it together (and I'm gonna drink the kool aid and say they definitely will eventually) will determine whether we can make the playoffs or not imo
 
imagine if favors, kanter and hayward would have a bench like last year: favors, kanter, burks, hayward

it's amazing how bigal and millsap didn't made the playoffs, this offseason they've got what they deserved

on topic - give this core to pop and he will make the playoffs
 
imagine if favors, kanter and hayward would have a bench like last year: favors, kanter, burks, hayward

it's amazing how Corbin thought that Alfense would lead us to the playoffs, this offseason they've got what they deserved

on topic - give last years team to pop and he will make theWCF

fixed
 
if foye and jefferson stay, making playoffs wont make any sense at all. They will mess our year and the next up, so we will not only get swept this year but also can't provide enough experience for young players
 
if foye and jefferson stay, making playoffs wont make any sense at all. They will mess our year and the next up, so we will not only get swept this year but also can't provide enough experience for young players

Al Jefferson? He's already gone.
 
imagine if favors, kanter and hayward would have a bench like last year: favors, kanter, burks, hayward

it's amazing how bigal and millsap didn't made the playoffs, this offseason they've got what they deserved

Well put.
 
I don't think you really understand how the Nba and young teams work

so i am underestimating the "mythical vet power" corbin is so crazy about.

ok.

warriors where young and made the playoffs.

sarcasm .... and didnt the young uns gain experince from watching the vets play /sarcasm
 
Burke > tinsley and watson who started about 30 games.
burks > foye
hayward> marvin wiliams
Kanter > millsap from last year
favors > jefferson

Over half of these are probably not true, yet. There is a difference between playing 20 minutes a night versus mostly backups and playing 35 minutes a night versus mostly starters. Kanter and Favors are going to feel the effects of this immediately. In addition, this is a really poor shooting team. I wish we could surround Kanter and Favors with better shooters. I guess Rush helps.
 
Its been said before but we are going to be this seasons Portland trailblazers. I bet we finish the season between the 6th and 12th spot in the lotto.

This, if you compare straight across our starters going into this year are more appealing than what we rolled with most of last year, but we are going from one of the strongest benches to one of the worst.
 
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