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How Many More Games Will Favors Take Off?

It's pretty sad. We've heard ever since the Boozer days that defense is the focus.

Maybe one problem is the old system the Jazz are using with minor tweaks just isn't
working in todays game?

I'm not officially worried long term, but it's a little frustrating coming from Big Al/Sap and getting the same results.
I can understand Lopez abusing us, but the Celts bigs? Come on guys. Man up!
 
zman1527 said:
I think that asserting that a guy is lazy and not trying is really not fair. Do you play sports? Did you ever have a bad game even though you tried as hard as ever? Are you suggesting that in his first year starting that if Favors just is not lazy, he will put up 20 and 15 with 4 blocks? Every night? Is it really that simple to succeed in the NBA? How easy is it when you have a brain-dead coaching staff?

Last night he looked fairly p*ssed off when he came out and was walking along the sidelines. A guy who is taking a "night off" does not get p*ssed off.
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Pissed off on the sidelines, not on the court. Yes, we may be penalizing a player for not being emotive, but he really doesn't seem to be competing as hard as other Jazz players. It looks like he's coasting.

Where's Favors been on weakside help when Enes/scrub PG get beat on the pick and roll? Yes, Enes has looked Boozer/Al-esque defending pick and rolls, but Favors is making very little effort to help. Right now, Enes is moving his feet a lot better to help on defense (even if he's not always going to the right spots).
 
Revolution 9 said:
It's pretty sad. We've heard ever since the Boozer days that defense is the focus.

Maybe one problem is the old system the Jazz are using with minor tweaks just isn't
working in todays game?

I'm not officially worried long term, but it's a little frustrating coming from Big Al/Sap and getting the same results.
I can understand Lopez abusing us, but the Celts bigs? Come on guys. Man up!
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Agreed. I did not like seeing either one of those games happen that way, with the other team's bigs scoring at will. They made the Celts bigs look like All-Stars, all of them. I wonder if having both high-draft pick, great athlete, strong bigs playing very poor low post defense has anything to do with coaching? One wonders. And I wonder what Lindsey thinks.
 
Defense is a lost art in the NBA. We can't score, so we talk about defense. NBA rules don't allow you to play defense. We need someone who can score.
 
Fatigue is the problem. And don't give me this trash that Enes plays defense, then blame it on Favors for not helping out. Kanter looks as big as a chump on the defensive side as Favors does on the offensive. Not to mention the defensive glass. So how many nights is Kanter going to take off on the defensive glass? How many nights is Kanter going to take defense off? See we can do it with every player on this team. Favors looks exhausted PERIOD. And until these young guys get in better condition, we will see this from time to time with every single one of them. EVEN Kanter. Give these guys a chance to grow.
 
When Favor's confidence is low he completely deflates. Something will happen early in the game - either he'll make a dumb turnover or miss an easy make or have a bad call made against him it will build up from there. His body language the last two nights was atrocious.

Textbook lack of maturity.
 
Stoked said:
He does seem to be his own biggest problem. If he would just get it together and try the whole game he has the potential to dominate.
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Are we talking about javale mcgee or deandre jordan?
 
green said:
Defense is a lost art in the NBA. We can't score, so we talk about defense. NBA rules don't allow you to play defense. We need someone who can score.
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Kinda agree
 
candrew said:
When Favor's confidence is low he completely deflates. Something will happen early in the game - either he'll make a dumb turnover or miss an easy make or have a bad call made against him it will build up from there. His body language the last two nights was atrocious.

Textbook lack of maturity.
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I think it is fatigue as addressed in this thread and this.

If you look at the games he gets it going on offense it's when he gets some early touches that go as hoped. Lots of examples of this. Hope he works through this
 
Right now, Favors is a defensive big who needs a good offensive night to have any effect on the floor.
 
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